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10-29-2013, 12:25 PM
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OMG! Any sacrifice rather than be a loser. Especially of an election.
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10-29-2013, 12:48 PM
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We might indeed have lost SE Asia without the sacrifices made in Vietnam.
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Newsflash!!! We lost in Vietnam, Pete.
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10-29-2013, 12:51 PM
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What, me worry?
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Really. Well you learn something new everyday
Vietnam didn't happen in a vacuum.
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10-29-2013, 01:14 PM
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Newsflash!!! We lost in Vietnam, Pete.
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and Laos and Cambodia. Dismally.
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10-29-2013, 01:35 PM
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I did not know we ever had a Southeast Asia to lose
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10-29-2013, 01:44 PM
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What, me worry?
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Our fearless leaders at the time (new and post- new dealers) saw an arrow pointed right at Japan.
The commies were being very aggressive at that point, who knows what would've happened if we did nothing.
Pete
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10-29-2013, 01:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Our fearless leaders at the time (new and post- new dealers) saw an arrow pointed right at Japan.
The commies were being very aggressive at that point, who knows what would've happened if we did nothing.
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We wouldn't have this.
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10-29-2013, 02:03 PM
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Indeed. However, if enough there fell to the commies we might have faced a much worse enemy defending Japan and found ourselves back at it in Korea. Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines...
I'm not saying they were right. Just saying they had reasons.
Pete
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10-29-2013, 02:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
The commies were being very aggressive at that point, who knows what would've happened if we did nothing.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-roBPhD-G3U
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10-29-2013, 03:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Indeed. However, if enough there fell to the commies we might have faced a much worse enemy defending Japan and found ourselves back at it in Korea. Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines...
I'm not saying they were right. Just saying they had reasons.
Pete
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Is that the story they are telling now? That Japan was in play as a domino? Never heard that tale with Japan in it before....
I believe what Elseberg believed. No president from Truman forward had any reason to think their Indochina policy would accomplish any necessary goal, expect the goal of pushing the ultimate disaster out past the next election.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...7042%2C1690895
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