2 year term. Good or bad.

[piece-itpete]

I agreed he was the better speaker, and mentioned he was willing to, um, push the boundries of Federal government once a few SC justices got out of the way.

He was also very good at running on a bogus neutrality platform. And perhaps refusing refugees.

But he did not pull us out.

Pete

[icenine]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I agreed he was the better speaker, and mentioned he was willing to, um, push the boundries of Federal government once a few SC justices got out of the way.

He was also very good at running on a bogus neutrality platform. And perhaps refusing refugees.

But he did not pull us out.

Pete

What was wrong with being anti-Nazi? I am sure if Hoover was at the helm he would have been the "Savior".

Does not matter what you believe. Americans returned him 4 times to office.

[piece-itpete]

I'm not sure how running on an antiwar platform, or turning away Jewish refugees, makes for anti-nazi.

But yes, he was President-For-Life (sigh).



Pete

[icenine]

Oh you have not brought up how he was in on Pearl Harbor yet Pete....

[piece-itpete]

Because I'm not talking about alternate realities Ice

Perhaps we should agree to disagree :cheers:

Pete

[ebacon]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Because I'm not talking about alternate realities Ice

Perhaps we should agree to disagree :cheers:

Pete

Agreeing to disagree is a limp-wristed way of saying let's fight again tomorrow.

I prefer here's to you, here's to me, if we ever disagree, fuck you, here's to me. And right now I disagree with the neocon path of the Republican party.

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by ebacon

....I prefer here's to you, here's to me, if we ever disagree, fuck you, here's to me. ....

LMAO!!!

Pete

[icenine]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Because I'm not talking about alternate realities Ice

Perhaps we should agree to disagree :cheers:

Pete

Friends again hurray

For a cold war liberal with a slightly GOP bent from Cleveland your ok!

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by icenine

friends again hurray:d

for a cold war liberal with a slightly gop bent from cleveland your ok!

bam!:d

[wgrr]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

We know that how exactly? Keep in mind that Hoover started many of FDRs alphabet soup programs, and it still took a massive bloody war to get us out of the depression.

Pete

We can debate the topic of WWII pulling us out of the depression another time.

FDR was a very wealthy man, who cared about the common man. He did not have to worry about offending the ruling upper class so he took the fight to them. the ruling elites hated the New Deal. They tried very hard to unseat FDR so he exposed them for what they were without worrying about being ruined financially.

http://www.rooseveltinstitute.org/ne...alth-and-power

I worked on the restoration of the cabins at a WPA project a few years ago. One of the guys I was working with pointed out a name on the plaque and told me it was his father who was very young at the time. He then repeated stories his father had told him, years ago about the WPA project, and how it saved his family from utter poverty. The project was in NW Arkansas which was affected by the Dust Bowl so it was very hard to farm and that is how most people made a living here at that time.

One funny thing about the restoration project was the restoration of the permanent concrete picnic tables that were washed away in a flood a few years before. They had to be made to the exact specifications of the original tables. The space between the table and the bench was so small a normal sized adult today can't sit at the tables.

Many of the CCC and WPA projects in this state are now state parks that generates millions of dollars a year for the state. They are a gift that keeps on giving.

One of the unexpected benefits of the projects were the men who worked on them learned to live away from home for extended periods of time, they learned to work as a team on the various projects like dam building, building their housing, and even building outdoor movie theaters that are still used today. They ate together, slept in close quarters, and worked their ass' off during the day. Sounds kind of like basic training for the military. Believe me those hillbilly's could already hit a gnats ass at a hundred yards with a rifle. They were already mostly trained when called up to serve in WWII.

My favorite WPA/CCC projects is the Red Rock Ampatheater near Morrison, Colorado. I saw Dave Matthews there in 95 while visiting a friend. It was an incredible concert. The acoustics were very good in the ampitheater. I saw him again a few years ago. It was good but you could really tell LeRoi Moore was not on woodwinds.