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08-07-2012, 04:10 PM
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Wasn't it Clinton who was bombing the Serbians who were in their ethnic cleansing mode? There was also some cruise missles sent after Al Qaeda after the embassy bombings in Africa, I seem to recall.
All I remember of Ronnie Rayguns big record on foreign policy was making Grenada safe for pina colada sipping med students.  That might be my flawed lefty recollection. His grandstanding after the fact, call for Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin wall was a PR hack job IMO. Solidarity did the heavy lifting as I recall.
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08-07-2012, 04:13 PM
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Not in the Clinton tradition, huh? 
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More importantly, not in the Dub tradition. Obama has shown a little similarity to Bush I in that several middle east leaders have been willing to cooperate with the US in finding solutions to problems in the region.
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08-07-2012, 05:48 PM
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More importantly, not in the Dub tradition. Obama has shown a little similarity to Bush I in that several middle east leaders have been willing to cooperate with the US in finding solutions to problems in the region.
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Yet, Obama has continued most of Bush's national defense policies. Hmmm...
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08-07-2012, 05:51 PM
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Wasn't it Clinton who was bombing the Serbians who were in their ethnic cleansing mode? There was also some cruise missles sent after Al Qaeda after the embassy bombings in Africa, I seem to recall.
All I remember of Ronnie Rayguns big record on foreign policy was making Grenada safe for pina colada sipping med students.  That might be my flawed lefty recollection. His grandstanding after the fact, call for Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin wall was a PR hack job IMO. Solidarity did the heavy lifting as I recall.
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You're right. Solidarity snuck into East Germany agitated for and end to Soviet occupation of the East. Then, they somehow fooled Moscow into spending billions of rubles on a national defense program that they could never sustain. I'll bet they spiked the Soviet economy and talked Mikhail Gorbachev into instituting glasnost too!
Brilliant, those Poles.
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08-07-2012, 05:58 PM
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He's been aggressive doing a lot of things when it suits him.

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Nice hat. I wonder if he was in to Leon Redbone when that pic was taken?
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08-07-2012, 06:03 PM
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You're right. Solidarity snuck into East Germany agitated for and end to Soviet occupation of the East. Then, they somehow fooled Moscow into spending billions of rubles on a national defense program that they could never sustain.
Brilliant, those Poles.
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The Poles had a lot to do with it. So did the (Polish) Pope. Mostly, though, the Sovs did it to themselves by bleeding their economy dry in Afghanistan, to say nothing of their Five Year Plans which kepthetting them deeper and deeper in the hole.
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08-07-2012, 06:28 PM
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You're right. Solidarity snuck into East Germany agitated for and end to Soviet occupation of the East. Then, they somehow fooled Moscow into spending billions of rubles on a national defense program that they could never sustain. I'll bet they spiked the Soviet economy and talked Mikhail Gorbachev into instituting glasnost too!
Brilliant, those Poles.
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There's hope for you yet Whellie! Glad you're coming around to a realistic viewpoint..
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08-07-2012, 06:33 PM
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Nice hat. I wonder if he was in to Leon Redbone when that pic was taken?
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Kinda looks like what Trayvon would've grown up to be? I'm also of the opinion that he's puffing on a Marlboro Light in that photo. You can almost make out the two faint lines around the filter end. Failed agin, Whellie!
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08-07-2012, 06:50 PM
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You're right. Solidarity snuck into East Germany agitated for and end to Soviet occupation of the East. Then, they somehow fooled Moscow into spending billions of rubles on a national defense program that they could never sustain. I'll bet they spiked the Soviet economy and talked Mikhail Gorbachev into instituting glasnost too!
Brilliant, those Poles.
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This post is almost as hilarious as listening to conservatives in the 1990s crow;
"Communism is Dead and Reagan killed it!!!"
Ummmmmmm, not so fast, guys...................China alone makes up nearly a third of the worlds population.
Dave
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08-07-2012, 09:44 PM
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I'd be a lot more likely to vote for the candidate that has a picture of him smoking a nice phatty in his youth than one that only shows going to church all the time.
At least I know the one that smoking a joint is being honest!
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