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05-07-2012, 04:03 PM
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No, don't do that. They make great beer there.
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05-07-2012, 06:04 PM
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There are some very disturbing actions on the part of the FBI. First they enlisted a provocateur whose name is Shaquille Azir. Azir infiltrated OC and came upon this group of five idiots talking smack about being anarchist wanting to blow things up to get even with Wall Street bankers. Not very smart to shot your mouth off, to anyone you do not know, when it comes to planning your terrorist plots.
Azir is a convicted felon, with a long rap sheet, and two pending check charges. Azir fronted the fantastic five the money to buy the "plastic explosives" which he then supplied to them. That alone should have set the bullshit meter off. Azir also coached the five on were to place the explosives at the bridge and how to detonate them. That should have blown up the bullshit meter. The problem is the fantastic five were too stupid to see the writing on the wall and they fell for it hook,line, and sinker.
Te FBI had their arrest warrants signed before they even attempted to blow up the bridge.
Already there are attorney's calling this entrapment. This is not a case of good police work. This is a case of the FBI infiltrating OC, finding a group of protesters that are not smart enough to pour piss out of their boots, and then making it very easy for them to carry out a domestic terrorist attack even though they did not posses the resources to actually do it themselves.
If the five had been thrown out of OC, just like others were that advocated violence, they probably would have have smoked another joint, and driven off into the sunset, in their worn out 89 IROC Z with the 2.5 liter 4 cylinder inline engine with a bumper sticker, on the rear bumper, that reads, " Ass, Grass, or Cash Nobody Rides For Free".
What worries me the most is there are people out there that are very capable of blowing up that bridge if they wanted to. They were trained in Iraq and Afghanistan.
While the FBI is manufacturing terrorist plots they are not using their resources wisely to actually prevent a terrorist attack by anybody in this country. They could have easily watched these five idiots and arrested them IF they actually tried to pull off a real terrorist attack in this country on their own.
The FBI needed a trophy head on the wall because, so far, they got squat when it comes to anarchy stemming from OWS. I think that displeases their real bosses the Wall Street Banksters.
What if McViegh's blowing up the Murrah Federal building in OKC inspires a domestic terrorist to do something similar. If McViegh had not been stopped for having no license plate on his escape van then he probably would have never been caught at all. Where was the FBI that fateful tax day, when hundreds of men, women , and children were killed? Probably investigating Clinton's involvement in the White Water Gate scandal, or the Mena, AR drug smuggling operation, and finally..the worst crime of all..getting a hummer in the Oval Office and lying about it under oath You know, important stuff.
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05-07-2012, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by wgrr
There are some very disturbing actions on the part of the FBI. First they enlisted a provocateur whose name is Shaquille Azir. Azir infiltrated OC and came upon this group of five idiots talking smack about being anarchist wanting to blow things up to get even with Wall Street bankers. Not very smart to shot your mouth off, to anyone you do not know, when it comes to planning your terrorist plots.
Azir is a convicted felon, with a long rap sheet, and two pending check charges. Azir fronted the fantastic five the money to buy the "plastic explosives" which he then supplied to them. That alone should have set the bullshit meter off. Azir also coached the five on were to place the explosives at the bridge and how to detonate them. That should have blown up the bullshit meter. The problem is the fantastic five were too stupid to see the writing on the wall and they fell for it hook,line, and sinker.
Te FBI had their arrest warrants signed before they even attempted to blow up the bridge.
Already there are attorney's calling this entrapment. This is not a case of good police work. This is a case of the FBI infiltrating OC, finding a group of protesters that are not smart enough to pour piss out of their boots, and then making it very easy for them to carry out a domestic terrorist attack even though they did not posses the resources to actually do it themselves.
If the five had been thrown out of OC, just like others were that advocated violence, they probably would have have smoked another joint, and driven off into the sunset, in their worn out 89 IROC Z with the 2.5 liter 4 cylinder inline engine with a bumper sticker, on the rear bumper, that reads, " Ass, Grass, or Cash Nobody Rides For Free".
What worries me the most is there are people out there that are very capable of blowing up that bridge if they wanted to. They were trained in Iraq and Afghanistan.
While the FBI is manufacturing terrorist plots they are not using their resources wisely to actually prevent a terrorist attack by anybody in this country. They could have easily watched these five idiots and arrested them IF they actually tried to pull off a real terrorist attack in this country on their own.
The FBI needed a trophy head on the wall because, so far, they got squat when it comes to anarchy stemming from OWS. I think that displeases their real bosses the Wall Street Banksters.
What if McViegh's blowing up the Murrah Federal building in OKC inspires a domestic terrorist to do something similar. If McViegh had not been stopped for having no license plate on his escape van then he probably would have never been caught at all. Where was the FBI that fateful tax day, when hundreds of men, women , and children were killed? Probably investigating Clinton's involvement in the White Water Gate scandal, or the Mena, AR drug smuggling operation, and finally..the worst crime of all..getting a hummer in the Oval Office and lying about it under oath You know, important stuff.
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I believe McViegh stated it was seeing what went down at Waco and what the Feds did at Ruby Ridge that motivated him to act.
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05-08-2012, 08:25 AM
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What, me worry?
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
No, don't do that. They make great beer there.
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True dat, thanks
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05-08-2012, 08:38 AM
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AKA Sister Mary JJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
No, don't do that. They make great beer there.
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"Necessity is the Mother of invention."
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05-08-2012, 11:00 AM
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What, me worry?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wgrr
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finding a group of protesters that are not smart enough to pour piss out of their boots....
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Was that hard?
Agreed it looks like the FBI goes a bit aggressive, perhaps too far, but the sad fact is these folks did do it - no one held a gun to their head.
They're pleading not guilty: "....
As Stafford was led out of the court by U.S. marshals, he repeatedly asked the judge, "Why did a federal informant approach me to do this act of terror?"
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http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...gent-informant
Pete
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05-08-2012, 11:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JJIII
"Necessity is the Mother of invention." 
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No, Frank Zappa is.
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05-08-2012, 12:14 PM
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Jigsawed
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Was that hard?
Agreed it looks like the FBI goes a bit aggressive, perhaps too far, but the sad fact is these folks did do it - no one held a gun to their head.
They're pleading not guilty: "....
As Stafford was led out of the court by U.S. marshals, he repeatedly asked the judge, "Why did a federal informant approach me to do this act of terror?"
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http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...gent-informant
Pete
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If the paid informer is a very good rabble rouser, it makes all the difference.
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05-08-2012, 01:12 PM
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What, me worry?
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Land of the burning river
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You could be talked into killing innocent bystanders?
Pete
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05-24-2012, 10:39 AM
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What, me worry?
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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Meet the players (scroll down to 'the suspects'):
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...t_was_the.html
Pete
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