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11-17-2010, 07:56 AM
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Perhaps we should join forces and start a pessimist club.
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It is already formed and I am the president.
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11-17-2010, 08:14 AM
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I think neither party really wants to solve the immigration issue for several reasons. The GOP will continue to have the opportunity to appeal to the white, fearful voters in its base and the Dem's to the hispanics in their base. Furthermore, business wants a continuing source of cheap, docile labor and Dem's want hispanic votes.
Stay tuned. Ain't nuttin' meaningful gonna happen.
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11-17-2010, 08:20 AM
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If nothing happens Finn then both parties have failed their duty to the US. It's a national security issue.
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Might be cheaper in the long run.
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And it's a clear responsibility of the Federal government.
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11-17-2010, 08:24 AM
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If nothing happens Finn then both parties have failed their duty to the US. It's a national security issue.
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... and what would be new about that? I'm not saying I'm in favor of nothing. I'm saying inertia is a powerful force.
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11-17-2010, 08:46 AM
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... and what would be new about that? I'm not saying I'm in favor of nothing. I'm saying inertia is a powerful force.
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For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction -- it''s rocket science.
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11-17-2010, 08:57 AM
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Lol!
I'm not saying you are Finn, just that it's a clear and present national security issue, vs a philisophical or political issue.
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11-17-2010, 08:58 AM
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For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction -- it''s rocket science. 
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One could interpret your response as saying no matter what they attempt to do, it will have unintended (and opposite from the intended) consequences. I buy that (unfortunately).
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11-17-2010, 10:19 AM
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One could interpret your response as saying no matter what they attempt to do, it will have unintended (and opposite from the intended) consequences. I buy that (unfortunately). 
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Give the man a kewpie doll.
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11-17-2010, 01:28 PM
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I've always maintained that a "fast track" to citizenship is about the only workable solution. Require the following:
1) Start with "provisional citizenship"...issue SS#s, start tax witholding, etc.
2) 2 years to master the English language. It's the de facto national tongue...learn it!
3) 2 years to be able to pass an 8th-grade equivalent civics/US history test.
Satisfy these requirements and "Congratulations! You are now a US citizen!"
Don't satisfy them? See ya...off you go to your home country. And...BTW...you leave your tax & SS money behind.
Illegals are here because this is "the promised land"...make it easy.
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11-17-2010, 02:03 PM
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Put them on a spaceship and send them back to Mars.
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