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11-15-2024, 11:33 AM
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I only call it out when I see it. i.e. it's not MY over-use.
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And it is not lost on me that whenever a "thinking Democrat" or conservative tries to have a discussion here, they just end up walking away, leaving the same, tired circle Jerk, [emphasis added]
Didja ever wonder why I'm right so often?
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Are you actually imagining this stuff impresses anyone? The same tired group here sees right through you, that's why you lost all the traction you gained initially here.
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11-15-2024, 11:45 AM
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But I'm less forgiving if the Joy Rieds, Jack Smiths, etc. of the world. Some of them need to be prosecuted. But only a very few.
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You try to put fascism over with a sea-lion tactics, just going a bit over the line. But if you can prosecute Jack Smith, you can do anything, and you will.
Sorry I spoke to you half-way reasonably just now. You are a shill for political murder, and worse.
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11-15-2024, 06:03 PM
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Didja ever wonder why I'm right so often? It's not me. It's the quality of my news sources.
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Are you right so often? Last I checked you were still peddling the 2020 stolen election theory, yet could not respond as to why then 60 lawsuits filed were lost.
If you keep repeating to yourself "I am smart", or better yet "I am the smartest", who is to argue against you since only you can hear what you are saying. Eventually you believe this to be true since you hear it so often.
Same goes for your being right all the time, its not your news sources since we all have access to information in general, its you talking to yourself.
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11-15-2024, 06:18 PM
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Are you right so often? Last I checked you were still peddling the 2020 stolen election theory, yet could not respond as to why then 60 lawsuits filed were lost.
If you keep repeating to yourself "I am smart", or better yet "I am the smartest", who is to argue against you since only you can hear what you are saying. Eventually you believe this to be true since you hear it so often.
Same goes for your being right all the time, its not your news sources since we all have access to information in general, its you talking to yourself.
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Just go back and look at any of the threads started by this moron, like his idiot Ivermectin one (though he still believes the nonsense he spouted there). They've all come to nothing, and he's been shown to be full of BS every time. His "quality" news sources must include InfoWars.
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11-15-2024, 06:34 PM
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It does not work. Like I mentioned "we" try to have these discussion at work, they bring it up as they know I will listen to their positions.
The civil discussion is their POV and myself and others debunking, they do not want to hear it and it always ends with us being "brain washed woke people" or something similar.
They both often site the same source and its articles as in the OP, its a very hard right leaning site for grooming disciples, it is working with the 2 guys I have known for 17 yrs. I have watched there slide down the crazy rabbit hole.
Not many of the Trump voters I know believe 2020 was stolen, it was all about their wallet for them.
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I know, I have had the same with a few here, It's impossible the reason with the unreasonable.
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11-15-2024, 07:54 PM
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"Trump will Fix It", believe that was one of his campaign slogans. Wonder what he will fix and how.
Economy was recovering nicely, needed more time to stabilize before the interest rates came down. Even the when the rates came down a bit, mortgage rates did not make a move. So what is Trump going to do to "fix' the economy which did not need any fixing?
Tariffs! Unfortunately he will be forced to impose even more tariffs if only to balance the tax cuts that the most fortunate among us are anticipating. Inflation and high interest rates will persist. So much for fixing the economy.
Illegal immigration from the southern border and this is something the Congress and presidents have been kicking around since the 80's. Remember Reagan's Amnesty program, which in effect increased the traffic until it became unmanageable. Even deportations could not keep up with the inflow. What is Trump going to do? Deport every illegal living in this country and can someone tell me how? Panic and chaos will ensue, but the problem will still persist because most if not all of them get somehow gainfully employed.
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11-16-2024, 06:51 AM
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I pretty much swore off cable news a couple of years back, so I haven't seen any of their post-mortems of the election. But I just watched Bill Maher's show from last night and his "New Rules" segment nails it perfectly IMO. It's worth 8 minutes of your time. Enjoy a good laugh (and cry).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtCK-dMb-F8
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11-16-2024, 08:39 AM
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"Trump will Fix It", believe that was one of his campaign slogans. Wonder what he will fix and how.
Economy was recovering nicely, needed more time to stabilize before the interest rates came down. Even the when the rates came down a bit, mortgage rates did not make a move. So what is Trump going to do to "fix' the economy which did not need any fixing?
Tariffs! Unfortunately he will be forced to impose even more tariffs if only to balance the tax cuts that the most fortunate among us are anticipating. Inflation and high interest rates will persist. So much for fixing the economy.
Illegal immigration from the southern border and this is something the Congress and presidents have been kicking around since the 80's. Remember Reagan's Amnesty program, which in effect increased the traffic until it became unmanageable. Even deportations could not keep up with the inflow. What is Trump going to do? Deport every illegal living in this country and can someone tell me how? Panic and chaos will ensue, but the problem will still persist because most if not all of them get somehow gainfully employed.
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Whatever the felon wrecks he'll blame someone else and his worshipper's will believe it. We've all seen this before.
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11-16-2024, 10:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rajoo
"Trump will Fix It", believe that was one of his campaign slogans. Wonder what he will fix and how.
Economy was recovering nicely, needed more time to stabilize before the interest rates came down. Even the when the rates came down a bit, mortgage rates did not make a move. So what is Trump going to do to "fix' the economy which did not need any fixing?
Tariffs! Unfortunately he will be forced to impose even more tariffs if only to balance the tax cuts that the most fortunate among us are anticipating. Inflation and high interest rates will persist. So much for fixing the economy.
Illegal immigration from the southern border and this is something the Congress and presidents have been kicking around since the 80's. Remember Reagan's Amnesty program, which in effect increased the traffic until it became unmanageable. Even deportations could not keep up with the inflow. What is Trump going to do? Deport every illegal living in this country and can someone tell me how? Panic and chaos will ensue, but the problem will still persist because most if not all of them get somehow gainfully employed.
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Geeze you still have this idea about a great economy. It greatness is inflation masquerading as growth. The compliant Civil servants over the years have been revising and manipulating the CPI in favor of the corporate and stock market class. They have been massaging the jobs report.
The markers to look for are the real price to access education, transportation and shelter. Symptoms are pervasive massive debts. Trump realized the angst and played to it. But he is just noise. I remember the first time he was running he complained that the economic numbers were bogus. However as soon as he got power he claimed the said numbers...WTF.
Tariff as a method is inevitable largely because of China's ever increasing efficiency. However this large deportation proposed is nonesense and will be made impractical by employers. Trump’s immigration proposals operate from racist impulse and are not based on common sense economics. There are 10 million working age Americans who have voluntarily withdrawn from the workforce; immigrants are needed.
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It is not yet clear to me whose century this is, but what IS clear is that it ain't the American one anymore.
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