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Old 06-27-2023, 11:10 AM
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And to express our everlasting gratitude, Trump's two impeachments will be expunged from our memory and history forever. (/s)
Trump stopped the third term of two grifters who in such a short time sold out the American middle.

Uncle Joe is trying but he is heavily handicapped due to the long-term damage of the first two terms.
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Old 06-27-2023, 11:40 AM
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Trump stopped the third term of two grifters who in such a short time sold out the American middle.
Bullshit Hillary hate. Trump handed the middle on a platter to the 0.1%er's. Hillary Clinton was the most classically prepared presidential candidate in my lifetime. Obviously the American people have a different opinion of Bill from yours. Clinton's 65% Gallup Poll approval rating was also the highest Gallup approval rating of any postwar President leaving office, one point ahead of Reagan.

Lame bullshit excuse...at least have the stones to admit who and what you are. A supporter of the sociopathic grifter/sexual assault perp who conspired to organize, and then participated in a violent action to reverse the legitimate results of the 2020 Presidential election. Got an excuse for that? I can't wait.

You are the problem, not Trump or the GOP...it's you, who will put any criminal in any office where you think it will benefit your wallet.

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Old 06-27-2023, 12:23 PM
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Trump stopped the third term of two grifters who in such a short time sold out the American middle.

Uncle Joe is trying but he is heavily handicapped due to the long-term damage of the first two terms.
Trump stopped grifters? On which planet - Bizarro World?
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Old 06-27-2023, 01:27 PM
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Lol...so you think Trump was the only grifter.
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Old 06-27-2023, 01:49 PM
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Lol...so you think Trump was the only grifter.

So just because others do, let him get away with it?

Why?
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Old 06-27-2023, 01:49 PM
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Lol...so you think Trump was the only grifter.
I didn't say that. What I meant that the level of Clinton grift is truly minuscule compared to that of Trump and his various minions and Trump should be the last person on earth thanked for somehow exposing and reducing grift by others.
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Old 06-27-2023, 02:15 PM
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Bullshit Hillargifted.
W Trump handed the middle on a platter to the 0.1%er's. Hillary Clinton was the most classically prepared presidential candidate in my lifetime. Obviously the American people have a different opinion of Bill from yours. Clinton's 65% Gallup Poll approval rating was also the highest Gallup approval rating of any postwar President leaving office, one point ahead of Reagan.

Lame bullshit excuse...at least have the stones to admit who and what you are. A supporter of the sociopathic grifter/sexual assault perp who conspired to organize, and then participated in a violent action to reverse the legitimate results of the 2020 Presidential election. Got an excuse for that? I can't wait.

You are the problem, not Trump or the GOP...it's you, who will put any criminal in any office where you think it will benefit your wallet.
When Trump came to power the middle was already severely injured first by Clinton with his hand over to
China and then by Obama with his Financialization.
Essentially the reasons why Michigan and Wisconsin went against Hillary.
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Old 06-27-2023, 02:20 PM
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When Trump came to power the middle was already severely injured first by Clinton with his hand over to
China and then by Obama with his Financialization.
Essentially the reasons why Michigan and Wisconsin went against Hillary.
Nixon and subsequent free-traders of all stripes (here and abroad) helped boost manufacturing jobs to China, as did Chinese industrial policy long before the Clinton administration. The Federal Reserve Bank says it started in ~1980 (long before Clinton) with the industrial policies of Deng Xiaoping.
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Old 06-27-2023, 02:51 PM
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Clinton was the cheerleader. China entry into the WTO was a game changer. His overall enthusiasm for globalization was unusual for a Democrat. If my memory serves me right his speech welcoming China was something.
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Old 06-27-2023, 03:00 PM
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Clinton was the cheerleader. China entry into the WTO was a game changer. His overall enthusiasm for globalization was unusual for a Democrat. If my memory serves me right his speech welcoming China was something.

His hope, along with that of many others since Nixon, was that opening the door to China and expanding their industrial output akin to Japan and Germany after WWII, would hasten their evolution towards a more democratic system while opening their markets to our products. You act as though there was nefarious intent in involved.

AFAIK, Bill and Chelsea Clinton did not have manufacturing arrangements with China like Trump or Ivanka did.
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