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Old 03-27-2010, 12:55 PM
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That's over thinking it. Fact is, the folks who started the American Revolution were indeed traitors to England. God love them for it, but that's a fact. Same deal, if the Crips, Bloods and Tea Party combine forces to overthrow the government and start a new country they will be traitors to the United States of America. The people who support them will no doubt say that what they created is better, but it won't be America and the claim that they're "saving America" through revolution is absurd. Like shooting someone in the head and saying you killed their cancer.
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Old 03-27-2010, 01:33 PM
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It looks as though with an approval rating of app 17%, congress is the perfect whipping boy.

Just a personal observation, but you're only a "traitor" if you lose.

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BTW, what does this have to do with criminals murdering police officers? Are drug dealing thugs now freedom fighters?
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Old 03-27-2010, 02:03 PM
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BTW, what does this have to do with criminals murdering police officers? Are drug dealing thugs now freedom fighters?
Depends on who you ask. That was my point. Are Tea Partiers freedom fighters? Depends on who you ask.
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Old 03-27-2010, 02:16 PM
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Depends on who you ask. That was my point. Are Tea Partiers freedom fighters? Depends on who you ask.
freedom fighters? You mean like al qaeda? No, but I see a ton of similarities.



Same goes for those damn hippies.
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Old 03-27-2010, 02:58 PM
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It might have happened, but I am not aware of a time when the people rose in revolution against a democratic form of government. The American Revolution was against a monarch imposing law in abstentia; the French Revolution against a corrupt monarchy.

Certainly there have been examples of groups amassing enough power to engage in a coups d'etat against a democratically elected government, or in instances where, despite elections, corruption prevented the government from actually being democratically elected.

I could not imagine how one could justify revolution against this government. A president and a congress elected by the majority of people delivered a plan that had been discussed during the election. The representatives who passed the allegedly unpopular legislation stand for election this year (all of one house and a third of the other.) The actions of this government stand to regulate some of the institutions that have substantial control over the people's access to health care; there is legislation pending to more strictly regulate an industry that was largely responsible for the extent of the recession from which we are emerging. Those who would rise up in "revolution" would in many respects simply doing the bidding of their corporate masters. I would cheer for any attempt at violent overthrow of this government to be swiftly crushed.

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Old 03-27-2010, 04:42 PM
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It might have happened, but I am not aware of a time when the people rose in revolution against a democratic form of government. The American Revolution was against a monarch imposing law in abstentia; the French Revolution against a corrupt monarchy.
Yeah, but the people who lost the last election see it differently. It's only a democracy when they win.
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Old 03-27-2010, 04:56 PM
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On topic the LA gang squad was very lucky. Someone identified their top secret unmarked HQ and rerouted a gas line on the roof to fill the building with gas. Lucky for them they smelled it before anyone flicked a light switch. Several days later one of the officers opened a gate on the compound triggering an improvised zip gun that fortunately missed him. They have since relocated to a new hidden location but I expect a lot more is to come.
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Old 03-27-2010, 05:28 PM
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On topic the LA gang squad was very lucky. Someone identified their top secret unmarked HQ and rerouted a gas line on the roof to fill the building with gas. Lucky for them they smelled it before anyone flicked a light switch. Several days later one of the officers opened a gate on the compound triggering an improvised zip gun that fortunately missed him. They have since relocated to a new hidden location but I expect a lot more is to come.
30 years ago, before the coming of political correctness, this shit would have been over before it got started.

And we would all be better off.

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