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Old 07-31-2016, 05:14 PM
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the orange menace who did not even know that Putin invaded Crimea! not to mention what he will do to the SCOTUS if elected. someone please find some dirt on Drumph and sell it to Larry Flynt.
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Old 07-31-2016, 05:16 PM
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Obama had a number of neocons carry over from the Bush admin and this set kept pushing him to adopt reckless measures re Russia and Obama refused.

Plus there is always the hysteria from McCain.

Will Clinton do the same?
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Old 07-31-2016, 05:17 PM
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Why should I "fear" a Trump presidency? If it is the will of the people, it will be so.
Somehow I do not see Hillary as our savior, she will have a hard enough time beating Trump and will find it impossible to deal with a GOP Congress simply because they do not or will not respect her. Sure it will look like Obama's 3rd term, probably worse. And again, if that's what the people want , they will get it. Either way it's a losing proposition for all.
1. He is an impulsive narcissistic idiot.
2. He is racist, bigoted, and a bully.
3. He either did not know or did not care that killing the families of 'terrorists' would be a war crime.
4. He's for torture: waterboarding and worse.
5. He has come out for changing the rules on press freedom, so that reporters he dies not like can be sued for 'libel.'
6. He is known to cheat at business, and his Trump university was an obvious fraud that exploited vulnerable students.
7. He scapegoats minorities, stiring-up racial hatred.
8. He keeps saying stupid shit about a big wall, with a straight face.
9. He has publicly stated he may not defend NATO countries if invaded by Putin or anyone else.
10. He will appoint flaming assholes to the Supreme Court
11. he will sign whatever crazy bills the Republican congress sends him.

He basically has no judgement, no sense of right and wrong, no respect for the rights of others, no interest except his own aggrandizement. He is authoritarian in sentiment. He cannot be trusted to respect the Bill of Rights or the constitutional separation of powers. He has the authoritarian attraction to force to solve problems. It would be ridiculously dangerous to elect this man president.

The worst conceivable 'Hillary problems' are not a tiny fraction as threatening as Trump. With Trump, the risks are existential.
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Old 07-31-2016, 05:24 PM
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Why should I "fear" a Trump presidency? If it is the will of the people, it will be so.
Somehow I do not see Hillary as our savior, she will have a hard enough time beating Trump and will find it impossible to deal with a GOP Congress simply because they do not or will not respect her. Sure it will look like Obama's 3rd term, probably worse. And again, if that's what the people want , they will get it. Either way it's a losing proposition for all.
Shorter version. What me worry? I'll be OK. I'm taking my ball and going to Tahoe.
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Old 07-31-2016, 05:38 PM
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A positive article about Trump!

These are about as rare as Ivory Billed Woodpecker sightings!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...nderstand.html
That dude is the biggest suck-up Putin apologist on the planet, and an embittered asshole to boot. I learned to ignore him decades ago.
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Old 07-31-2016, 05:40 PM
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Calling those Baltic countries 'member states' seems to be a stretch. They approached NATO and voted to join after regaining their freedom from the Imperialistic Russkies.
And there you have it. Russia still thinks that Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary and the Baltics should be dancing to their tune. Fuck a bunch of Putins.
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Old 07-31-2016, 05:47 PM
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Shorter version. What me worry? I'll be OK. I'm taking my ball and going to Tahoe.
I should be offended but somehow I find myself smiling at your response Bob. Must be the Tahoe effect and my 'what me worry' attitude. Been a fan of MAD magazine since mid 60's.
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Old 07-31-2016, 05:50 PM
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Obama had a number of neocons carry over from the Bush admin and this set kept pushing him to adopt reckless measures re Russia and Obama refused.

Plus there is always the hysteria from McCain.

Will Clinton do the same?
Victoria Nuland will be her Sec. of State. Mark my words.
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Old 07-31-2016, 05:50 PM
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1. He is an impulsive narcissistic idiot.
2. He is racist, bigoted, and a bully.
3. He either did not know or did not care that killing the families of 'terrorists' would be a war crime.
4. He's for torture: waterboarding and worse.
5. He has come out for changing the rules on press freedom, so that reporters he dies not like can be sued for 'libel.'
6. He is known to cheat at business, and his Trump university was an obvious fraud that exploited vulnerable students.
7. He scapegoats minorities, stiring-up racial hatred.
8. He keeps saying stupid shit about a big wall, with a straight face.
9. He has publicly stated he may not defend NATO countries if invaded by Putin or anyone else.
10. He will appoint flaming assholes to the Supreme Court
11. he will sign whatever crazy bills the Republican congress sends him.

He basically has no judgement, no sense of right and wrong, no respect for the rights of others, no interest except his own aggrandizement. He is authoritarian in sentiment. He cannot be trusted to respect the Bill of Rights or the constitutional separation of powers. He has the authoritarian attraction to force to solve problems. It would be ridiculously dangerous to elect this man president.

The worst conceivable 'Hillary problems' are not a tiny fraction as threatening as Trump. With Trump, the risks are existential.
Thanks DonQ for a thoughtful and detailed response.
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Old 07-31-2016, 05:54 PM
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That dude is the biggest suck-up Putin apologist on the planet, and an embittered asshole to boot. I learned to ignore him decades ago.
No, that would have to be Ray McGovern.
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