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[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Why are you doing Trump defense now? According to your self-justifying narrative, aren't you supposed to pivot now, and start building a progressive 'revolution' in reaction to Trump?

Me?

I'm just an old retired government employee watching this play out.

I don't have any influence or power to make anything happen.

But I will say I am pleased so far with the way things are unfolding.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Me?

I'm just an old retired government employee watching this play out.

I don't have any influence or power to make anything happen.

But I will say I am pleased so far with the way things are unfolding.

All the masks are coming off. All the deceits are being revealed.

You are naked. And I've seen all I want to see....

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Well, whaddya know? A Moscow diplomat confirmed that Russia intervened in our election (not that I had any doubt about it).

MOSCOW — Russian government officials had contacts with members of Donald Trump’s campaign team, a senior Russian diplomat said Thursday, in a disclosure that could reopen scrutiny over the Kremlin’s role in the president-elect’s bitter race against Hillary Clinton.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...18e_story.html

So, all of these flag-waving, America-first "patriots" put a feckin' Manchurian Candidate in the White House? Sad.

That is, unless it's more ratfucking.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

all the masks are coming off. All the deceits are being revealed.

You are naked. And i've seen all i want to see....

roflmao

[Tom Joad]

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

True dat.

[Rajoo]

She finally met her match, went up against someone who is let's say, a bit more creative with the truth, and the best man won.

[Pio1980]

The difference between a fibber and a profligate liar isn't subtle, but was of no Interest to the demographic that chose demagoguery over fact based reason.

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[Tom Joad]

Here's some interesting stuff.

In 2008 Obama got 69.5 million votes.

In 2012 Obama got 65.9 million votes

In 2016 Hillary Clinton so far has 60.3 million votes. A few more will dribble in as provisional ballots are added but you can see what the bottom line is going to be.

In 2012 Mitt Romney got 60.9 million votes.

So far Trump has 59.9 million votes.

So it appears that Trump is going to win win less votes than Romney had when he lost.

In fact both candidates are going to underperform Mitt Romney.

Presumably as the population is growing one would expect the vote counts to be getting higher each election.

But they are not.

Here's another way to look at it.

Republicans:

2008 McCain": 59.9 million votes
2012 Romney: 60.9 million votes
2016 Trump: 59.9 million votes

Pretty consistant

Democrats

2008 Obama: 69.5 million votes
2012 Obama: 65.9 million votes
2016 Clinton: 60.3 million votes

On a downhill slide

[Rajoo]

There is logic behind the numbers for the Democratic votes.
There was less excitement for an Obama second term and even less for a Hillary presidency.