Putin Invades the Ukraine

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

Russian planes violate Swedish air space, shoot them.

Or Polish air space...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-AERqRCvsU

[nailer]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

The 'former' IDF guys do appear to fighting as a unit, rather than dispersed volunteers.

But then again, it's difficult to say how accurate this information is.

As to what is actually going on on the ground we basically know next to nothing because that's what the media knows.

[nailer]

Being a Sun Tzu disciple helps.

[Human]

Originally Posted by nailer

As to what is actually going on on the ground we basically know next to nothing because that's what the media knows.

I assume we don't know most of what's going on because it would be stupid to make it public. I sure as hell wouldn't tell anybody what was going on if I was in charge.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Human

I assume we don't know most of what's going on because it would be stupid to make it public. I sure as hell wouldn't tell anybody what was going on if I was in charge.

And I'm sure glad you're not. We already have way too many wannabe in charge guys around that are doing exactly what you would. I prefer knowing over being played the fool over and over and over again. It's a discordant tune to my ear.

[donquixote99]

Appros of people being 'played,' here's one of Beau's commentaries from an earlier episode in the war--back when the word was that a squad of Ruskie guys on a mission to assassinate Zelensky had been 'eliminated.'

The whole thing is interesting and worth a listen, but it's the last 1 minute--starting at the 6:00 mark--that I thought of when I read the above heartfelt complaint. Thing is, we need not to be so self-centered about this stuff, because in general it's not you or I that they are trying to play.

[Human]

Originally Posted by nailer

And I'm sure glad you're not. We already have way too many wannabe in charge guys around that are doing exactly what you would. I prefer knowing over being played the fool over and over and over again. It's a discordant tune to my ear.

I’d make a substantial bet that if you were in charge of military operations in Ukraine, you would not be 100% transparent about what you are have seen, or are planning.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Human

I’d make a substantial bet that if you were in charge of military operations in Ukraine, you would not be 100% transparent about what you are have seen, or are planning.

You're on - 100 bucks. I'm an American so pay up.

Whose in charge of military operations for the Ukraine and Russia and are these two individuals in charge of what information is given out for public dissemination?

[Human]

Originally Posted by nailer

You're on - 100 bucks. I'm an American so pay up.

You're not seriously arguing that you would share all field/battle intel with anybody who asks, are you?

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Human

You're not seriously arguing that you would share all field/battle intel with anybody who asks, are you?

You still haven't told me my military position.

BTW, the data dump you just described would be essentially meaningless to the media.

Seriously, just what is serious arguing?