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04-07-2016, 05:45 PM
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Lot's o' kitchen sinks flying around here.
#FeelTheMath
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04-07-2016, 05:49 PM
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04-07-2016, 06:10 PM
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Believe it or not gentlemen Hillary is not the enemy.
Tearing her and by extension the Democratic Party down is just helping the real enemy.
Bernie is not helping her by by beating her over the head on the the superpac issue.
Obama used them because he felt he needed to because he had to match the opposition. Blaming Hillary for using them just because she is Hillary is a double standard. Don't give me the bullshit about they came from a bank...all superpacs are dark money, even the ones Obama used.
I wonder if he won the nomination Sanders would still not use superpacs if a strong opponent on the Republican side was using them. Only a fool would bring a knife to a machine gun fight. Remember in the general campaign the stakes are a million times higher.
I think Sanders is also saying Hillary is the moral equivalent of W on the Iraq War. That is bullshit too. And she has apologized for her vote, something the neocons have yet to do.
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04-07-2016, 06:20 PM
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Lot's o' kitchen sinks flying around here.
#FeelTheMath 
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I've been KO'd, first by the NY state of mind line (not knowing what it meant) and now your bolded comment (which is very good actually).
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04-07-2016, 06:26 PM
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Believe it or not gentlemen Hillary is not the enemy.
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Well she is her own worst enemy. Most don't really trust her and only a few like her. Lack of credibility and charisma are her problems, not some of us non-supporters.
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04-07-2016, 06:34 PM
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Well she is her own worst enemy. Most don't really trust her and only a few like her. Lack of credibility and charisma are her problems, not some of us non-supporters.
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Makes me wonder which politician anyone trusts... Or likes... Or has credibility....
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04-07-2016, 06:41 PM
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And she has apologized for her vote.
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Well bless her little pea pickin heart!.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-24547256
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Iraq study estimates war-related deaths at 461,000
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04-07-2016, 06:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by icenine
Believe it or not gentlemen Hillary is not the enemy.
Tearing her and by extension the Democratic Party down is just helping the real enemy.
Bernie is not helping her by by beating her over the head on the the superpac issue.
Obama used them because he felt he needed to because he had to match the opposition. Blaming Hillary for using them just because she is Hillary is a double standard. Don't give me the bullshit about they came from a bank...all superpacs are dark money, even the ones Obama used.
I wonder if he won the nomination Sanders would still not use superpacs if a strong opponent on the Republican side was using them. Only a fool would bring a knife to a machine gun fight. Remember in the general campaign the stakes are a million times higher.
I think Sanders is also saying Hillary is the moral equivalent of W on the Iraq War. That is bullshit too. And she has apologized for her vote, something the neocons have yet to do.
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You would know Robbin. You're the one who's always crawling inside Bernie's
head end telling us why he thinks this or will do that. Bernie would have major defections from his support base if he were to set up a super pac.
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04-07-2016, 07:04 PM
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You would know Robbin. You're the one who's always crawling inside Bernie's
head end telling us why he thinks this or will do that. Bernie would have major defections from his support base if he were to set up a super pac.
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I communicate regularly with Sanders with the help of my neighbor's St. Bernard...I kneel down by the fence and put my head really close to his and then make the connection.
St Bernard is wondering why it is ok for Obama to use superpacs but not Hillary.
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04-07-2016, 07:06 PM
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If he gets the nomination (which he won't), Bernie will have SuperPAC's just like everyone else. By law, they can't coordinate, so he (like everyone else) can pretend that he has nothing to do with it.
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