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Old 10-26-2022, 01:25 PM
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Old 10-26-2022, 01:35 PM
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Facts are to Whell as water is to a duck’s back.
Reality has a liberal bias. As quaint and seemingly sarcastic as this saying seems, it's unfortunately quite true.
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Old 10-26-2022, 02:21 PM
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Once again, the length of your response correlates directly to its speciousness.

Two quick undisputed facts -

Russia did indeed interfere in the 2016 election with the specific purpose of getting Trump, a Putin fanboy with an ongoing (and undisclosed) hotel deal in Moscow, elected with the encouragement, acquiescence and apparent cooperation of the Trump campaign (Manafort, Gates, Stone).
If you need to misquote what I said to make your point, you're grasping at straws...again. I didn't use the word "interfere" anywhere in the post above. I have no doubt there was "interference".

I did specifically use the words "Russian collusion" with the Trump campaign, which has been debunked, but which the media openly and errantly reported on.

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Trump did not win the 2020 election yet he persisted in telling the lie that he did despite knowing full well that he lost and that lie resulted in a violent insurrection against the US government that he actively encouraged and idly sat back and let unfold.

And for the most part, the MSM reported these undisputed facts correctly while Fox News didn't.
My point is that Trump, and anyone else, who questions the 2020 election has a special, pejorative nickname(s) that the press continues to use - as the WaPo article shows - and they generally don't bother confining that adjective to the editorial pages. Dems like Clinton, Stacy Abrams, and others get a complete pass when they rant on about elections. But, I'm sure that lack of balanced perspective doesn't bother you.

Whether Trump, on Jan 6th "actively encouraged and idly sat back and let unfold" the riot, that's doubtful. Lost in the hyperventilating about January 6th were Trump's words from his speech that morning from the park across from the White House. "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." Those words suggest to me that Trump expected a peaceful protest. I don't think he encouraged anything, but I also think that he could have done more once the riot was underway.

Also, whether the MSM has reported on the facts correctly regarding January 6th? I think they've generally treated it like they treated the Russia Collusion narrative. This is to say that they've stressed some facts (and people) over others when it suits the narrative. I'll never forget how Cassidy Hutchinson - someone no one ever heard of and someone who rarely had contact with Trump - was treated as someone whose words about what Trump did or said should be taken as gospel. Words that generally have not been corroborated....

I'll stop here, because I know longer posts are hard for you to read.
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Old 10-26-2022, 03:29 PM
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Oh I think your boy tRump goes a little harder, a little further than just "questioning" the results of the 2020 election. In his own words it was stolen from him. He even went so far as to say, months before the election, that he would not accept the results unless he won. Did he disavow the strong language and words of the other speakers before him in the "Stop the Steal" rally that were revving the crowd into a fever pitch? You seem to expect us not to believe our own eyes and ears. You can cherry pick lines from his speech like you're speaking to a bunch of tRump idiots but we here are not. All the evidence presented by the Jan 6 investigation, which he wanted no Repubs to be a part of, shows he incited the attack but your denial of what the committee presented conveniently allows you to deny his involvement. whell buddy I know you're the author of this thread and will allow no arguments and facts to sway you but to anyone but the tRump cult, you come across as quite disingenuous. But hey, you keep doing you.
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Old 10-26-2022, 03:51 PM
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If you need to misquote what I said to make your point, you're grasping at straws...again.
I didn't attempt to quote (or misquote) you. If I had, I would have used this board's quote function. I simply stated two undisputed facts, which of course you disputed because you simply cannot abide anything negative being said about your Dear Leader, even if true.

As for the content of the remainder of your post, Macbeth summed it up nicely - "Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
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Old 10-26-2022, 05:55 PM
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Is that the latest alternative facts, that Trump asked the crowd at his rally near the Whiet House to march peaceably to the capitol and hug the Capitol police?
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Old 10-26-2022, 05:57 PM
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Is that the latest alternative facts, that Trump asked the crowd at his rally near the Whiet House to march peaceably to the capitol and hug the Capitol police?
I see how he skipped right over that "fight like hell" part too.
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Old 10-26-2022, 06:36 PM
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Looks like a J6 whitewash in the works folks and if enough people believe it, there goes any consequences for the GOP.
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Old 10-26-2022, 07:02 PM
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That's been the plan all along. I'll be wearing my mourning clothes when they shred the US Constitution.
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Old 10-26-2022, 07:05 PM
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Looks like a J6 whitewash in the works folks and if enough people believe it, there goes any consequences for the GOP.
Our village idiot has assured us that the J6 committee is engaged in a purely political exercise, so why should there be any consequences?
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