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Old 10-14-2022, 07:26 AM
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Ever notice that when sharply challenged or contradicted, most people's impulse is to cling all the more tightly to their position?
Yeah, I've noticed that.
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Old 10-14-2022, 09:09 AM
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Ever notice that when sharply challenged or contradicted, most people's impulse is to cling all the more tightly to their position?
Arguing with a Trump supporter is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it won.
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Old 10-14-2022, 10:13 AM
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Fucker Carlson, promoter of the great replacement theory, Vladimir Putin and Putin's invasion and murder of Ukraine and it's civilians. Fucker Carlson should eat shit and die.
Again, replacement theory is a Dem-originated talking point, wish.
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Old 10-14-2022, 10:42 AM
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Again, replacement theory is a Dem-originated talking point, wish.
Wrong again. The Great Replacement, also known as replacement theory or great replacement theory, is a white nationalist far-right conspiracy theory disseminated by French author Renaud Camus in 2011 (though the groundwork was laid earlier). The original theory states that, with the complicity or cooperation of "replacist" elites, the ethnic French and white European populations at large are being demographically and culturally replaced with non-white peoples—especially from Muslim-majority countries—through mass migration, demographic growth and a drop in the birth rate of white Europeans. Since then, similar claims have been advanced in other national contexts, notably in the United States.

https://www.adl.org/resources/backgr...t-an-explainer

Don't you get tired about being wrong about everything all the time?
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Old 10-14-2022, 11:21 AM
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Sure, a 'Dem theory.' Explains why Tucker Carlson has pushed it over and over. https://www.indy100.com/politics/tuc...te-replacement
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Old 10-14-2022, 12:22 PM
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US midterm elections: Does Finland have the answer to fake news?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63222819

Note the Media Literacy Index - FAR higher literacy in the "Soci@list" Scandinavian countries than here (most likely due to Faux "News" and MAGAMorons).
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Old 10-14-2022, 12:27 PM
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US midterm elections: Does Finland have the answer to fake news?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63222819

Note the Media Literacy Index - FAR higher literacy in the "Soci@list" Scandinavian countries than here (most likely due to Faux "News" and MAGAMorons).
Conservatives howl in protest at any effort to improve public media literacy as their entire model depends disproportionately on lies, propaganda and agitprop directed at the "poorly educated."
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Old 10-14-2022, 12:31 PM
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Wrong again. The Great Replacement, also known as replacement theory or great replacement theory, is a white nationalist far-right conspiracy theory disseminated by French author Renaud Camus in 2011 (though the groundwork was laid earlier). The original theory states that, with the complicity or cooperation of "replacist" elites, the ethnic French and white European populations at large are being demographically and culturally replaced with non-white peoples—especially from Muslim-majority countries—through mass migration, demographic growth and a drop in the birth rate of white Europeans. Since then, similar claims have been advanced in other national contexts, notably in the United States.

https://www.adl.org/resources/backgr...t-an-explainer

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Wrong again! Nice try, but it goes back before 2011, and the Dems were cheering for it before 2011.

Ruy Texiera, a "liberal patriot", published a book on this topic in 2002. In his book, he called for Democrats to exploit "economic and demographic changes, including the growth of minority communities and cultural shifts among college graduates."

Political pundits saw the 2008 election as proof positive that demographics were favoring the Dems: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna28579278

"Dems boosted by demography, destiny
The population trends that gave Democrats an edge in November show no sign of slowing."


By 2012, the left was already embracing the term "Demographics are destiny" to encapsulate their vision for the new vision of the Democrat party. https://www.politico.com/blogs/polit...destiny-129300

In 2013, the left was cheering for the influx of Hispanic people to become Democrat voters, and attempting to influence immigration policy accordingly.
https://www.politico.com/story/2013/...college-090478

The immigration proposal pending in Congress would transform the nation’s political landscape for a generation or more — pumping as many as 11 million new Hispanic voters into the electorate a decade from now in ways that, if current trends hold, would produce an electoral bonanza for Democrats and cripple Republican prospects in many states they now win easily.

It's only when their great hopes for building a much larger voting block didn't pan out that the Dems started to leave behind the concept that "Demographics are destiny". The 2016 election started to unravel their hopes and dreams when Trump delivered a pretty respectable percentage of the Hispanic vote.

So, I find it humorous that the Dems are trying to turn around and frame this as an example of "racism" on the right. The Repubs have been more successful - though probably not as successful as they want to be - and the Dems are just pissed about it.
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Old 10-14-2022, 12:50 PM
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Wrong again! Nice try, but it goes back before 2011, and the Dems were cheering for it before 2011.

Ruy Texiera, a "liberal patriot", published a book on this topic in 2002. In his book, he called for Democrats to exploit "economic and demographic changes, including the growth of minority communities and cultural shifts among college graduates."
You're way too far in the bag to realize that there's a huge difference between a political party wishing to tweak their policies and communications strategy to reflect demographic changes (something the GOP also wanted to do via their 2013 "autopsy") and a conspiracy theory that posits that a (mostly Jewish) cabal is deliberately trying to undermine society by replacing a preferred demographic (white Christians) with people of color (e.g., Hispanics) or Muslims.

You really should make a concerted effort to improve your news sources due to your obvious susceptibility to wingnut bullshit.
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Old 10-14-2022, 04:18 PM
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You're way too far in the bag to realize that there's a huge difference between a political party wishing to tweak their policies and communications strategy to reflect demographic changes (something the GOP also wanted to do via their 2013 "autopsy") and a conspiracy theory that posits that a (mostly Jewish) cabal is deliberately trying to undermine society by replacing a preferred demographic (white Christians) with people of color (e.g., Hispanics) or Muslims.

You really should make a concerted effort to improve your news sources due to your obvious susceptibility to wingnut bullshit.
What you and others call a "conspiracy theory" is simply a repackaging of old, failed ideas. It was a fervent hope for the Dems that fell apart.

Now folks like you wish to attach it as a motivating idea for all Repubs who happen to favor border security, and call it "racism". It doesn't work that way, sorry. In fact, its interesting to me that once the talking heads started talking more favorably about immigration's potential favorable impact on Democrats, the poll numbers really started to move. Starting around 2008–2010, Democratic support for more immigration rose from about 20% to 47% today.

t's just a product of the same old crap where Dems wish to frame all Repubs as racist. In other words, when ideas fail, the left just resorts to name-calling. Good luck with that.

The bottom line for me, and most folks, is that LEGAL immigration to the United States is a good thing. Per the Cato Inst. article above: ...91% welcome immigration, including 68% who favor a “low level” and 23% who prefer a “high level” of immigration.

So, you can focus on the wacko fringe if you want, a population that represented no more than, and probably far less than, 9% of the population. But I'm not terribly interested in your discussion and haranguing about fringe ideas that don't represent most folks' reality.
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