Trumps is in!

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Mr. Lin

You give our detested governor far too much credit. And thanks for the funny picture.

Two term governor, got a hug from Obama once () and figured he would have better sense and really does not need Trump for the limelight.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Yes, must be hate. And this is happening in a democracy during an information age.

Information technology is how it works. Teach people to hate and then slowly and methodically take everything away from them, their financial and physical security, their belief in themselves, their dignity and self respect and then leave them with nothing but their hate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zYlOU7Fpk

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Information technology is how it works. Teach people to hate and then slowly and methodically take everything away from them, their financial and physical security, their belief in themselves, their dignity and self respect and then leave them with nothing but their hate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zYlOU7Fpk

Aren't we also survivors and eventually the very survival of these people will be threatened. What then, a revolution? Of course, history must repeat itself.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Aren't we also survivors and eventually the very survival of these people will be threatened. What then, a revolution? Of course, history must repeat itself.

The revolution, if it comes, will not be against the oppressors but against those whom the oppressors have conditioned the people to hate.

[Pio1980]

Sadly, probably.

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[nailer]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Yes, must be hate. And this is happening in a democracy during an information age.

More like the disinformation age.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Boreas

That's the precise problem with your attitude. "Anyone can drink in moderation if they put their mind to it" or "and I'll tell you something else... the idea that heroin is so hard to get off of is bullshit".

So, ed, it's not me. It's you.

nice try but I don't talk in absolutes, you have tended to here


changing my words or misrepresenting my intent does not advance your argument.

First you attacked me, now you misrepresent what I say. Care to go for strike 3 ?

It's good to not always be in lock step although most times we have agreed on things.

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As to heroin and it's physical addiction, a simple taper will yield rather successful results.

If you want to speak to it's physiological dependency, we can do that. If you lump them together a good understanding will not be had.

Same with the alcohol conversation.

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You know John, I had no problem changing my position on gay marriage when presented with your arguments. You still will not directly say I am right as to what to do with one last bottle of alcohol.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Just as with Trump's candidacy, sane and reasonable people believed we must have passed the sell by date on all this bullshit a long time ago. .

so one is not sane if they see value in Trump?

Two thoughts.

I saw Trump speak this weekend (TV) on Cuba.
Now, let me state that my view on Cuba is one of admiration for Obie. I have been for lifting the embargo and normalizing relationships since the fall of the USSR.
So... Trump starts by saying how bad and weak Obie is. I don't like hearing this and I disagree. But he never says that he is against the Cuba initiative. He was against Obie not being met at the plane by either of the Castros. He then says he would have got back on the plane and come home if it were he.
I kinda like that attitude.

Next
Israel.
Trump has not backed off the notion that in order to get a deal in the middle east he advocates a neutral position be taken by an arbiter. Hillary by contrast wants to give Isreal unconditional love. Good luck with that if you really want peace.

Score, Trump 2, Obie 0, Hillary 0.

Now I know this will inflame many but honest even if you don't agree with me my view is hardly insane as you think all Trump non condemners are.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by noonereal

so one is not sane if they see value in Trump?

Two thoughts.

I saw Trump speak this weekend (TV) on Cuba.
Now, let me state that my view on Cuba is one of admiration for Obie. I have been for lifting the embargo and normalizing relationships since the fall of the USSR.
So... Trump starts by saying how bad and weak Obie is. I don't like hearing this and I disagree. But he never says that he is against the Cuba initiative. He was against Obie not being met at the plane by either of the Castros. He then says he would have got back on the plane and come home if it were he.
I kinda like that attitude.

Next
Israel.
Trump has not backed off the notion that in order to get a deal in the middle east he advocates a neutral position be taken by an arbiter. Hillary by contrast wants to give Isreal unconditional love. Good luck with that if you really want peace.

Score, Trump 2, Obie 0, Hillary 0.

Now I know this will inflame many but honest even if you don't agree with me my view is hardly insane as you think all Trump non condemners are.

The idea of getting in a snit and going home because of failure of the Castros to deliver what one chooses to consider due deference is emotion-based. If one considers dispassionate logic to be the highest form of mental power, it is more toward the insane end of the spectrum.

You gave Trump the points because he punches your buttons.

[icenine]

Obama is making a point not to meet Fidel Castro so meeting him at the airport, notwithstanding the latter's current age and condition, is a no go. Once again Trump is putting emphasis on simplistic notions of strength, not unlike Putin does all the time.
Yeah Trump's gonna make America great again.