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10-04-2013, 08:15 PM
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I just wish the average person was aware enough to realize the games that get played and take it out on their elected officials at the following election. Most of the people I know either vote popular or incumbent and do little or no research at all.
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Or....party line. The last election cycle was the first time in my life I voted for ZERO Republicans. I'm thinking the next one might be the same. Am I a big fan of Terry McCauliffe? No. But, I'd sooner eat crushed glass than vote for Cucinelli.
This is what it's come to.
Dave
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10-04-2013, 08:18 PM
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I heard Cruz is going to a rally with Cucinelli this weekend.......
wtf? Is Cucinelli that stupid? Virginia has the highest amount of Federal Workers in the USA
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10-04-2013, 08:26 PM
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This is not checks and balance. This is extortion by a reckless minority and one member of the congress albeit it's misguided leader holding up a vote.
For a system of checks and balances to work, both houses needs to vote and then the president signs or vetoes. A veto then can be overturned. If the republicans really believe in democracy, how come they don't have the guts to have a vote in the house? They would lose and everyone knows it. So it's stupidity and cowardice at work here.
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10-04-2013, 10:29 PM
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This is not checks and balance. This is extortion by a reckless minority and one member of the congress albeit it's misguided leader holding up a vote.
For a system of checks and balances to work, both houses needs to vote and then the president signs or vetoes. A veto then can be overturned. If the republicans really believe in democracy, how come they don't have the guts to have a vote in the house? They would lose and everyone knows it. So it's stupidity and cowardice at work here.
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It's politics.
It stinks, but that's what is it.
Ain't too much sense in getting bent out of shape about it. Kinda like hating August for being hot, or January for being cold.
It's the nature of things.
Chas
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10-04-2013, 11:11 PM
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Except 'politics as usual' doesn't carry this level of risk. There's a qualitative difference here.
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10-05-2013, 12:14 AM
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Politics as usual will ultimately win out. Actually, right now, it's looking rather desirable.
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10-05-2013, 12:56 AM
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Their loan is through FHA Rural Housing. The lights are off there, employees are home.
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It's worse than just FHA loans according to this article, Barney.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...y.html?hpid=z1
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10-05-2013, 01:15 AM
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Republicans hurting the economy on purpose? ON PURPOSE!
tell me when that has happened in our lifetimes....
I do not mean the usual bs about policy....I mean acting in a way in which a negative outcome is known to be the result.
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10-05-2013, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles
It's politics.
It stinks, but that's what is it.
Ain't too much sense in getting bent out of shape about it. Kinda like hating August for being hot, or January for being cold.
It's the nature of things.
Chas
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If this is politics, you may also want to believe that a few Al-Qaeda guys were playing a game of DARE on 9/11.
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10-05-2013, 08:53 AM
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Germany's influential newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung bemoaned the U.S. political chaos.
"At the moment, Washington is fighting over the budget and nobody knows if the country will still be solvent in three weeks. What is clear, though, is that America is already politically bankrupt," it said.
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