Is Today's Trumpist GOP Fascist?

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

A question I've seen elsewhere. Why is it illegal in this country for a felon (or insurrectionist) to vote yet it's permissible for one to hold the highest office in the land? Should we Democrats take The House and survive GOP challenges to a Democrat victory for president maybe we should do something about that. None of this pansy nonsense about it could backfire on the Democrats. If a felon (or insurrectionist) is a Democrat he or she shouldn't be able to hold the office either.

A simple law couldn't do it, I believe this will require a constitutional amendment because requirement for POTUS is very simple.
US born, 35 years old, resident for 14 years.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

A simple law couldn't do it, I believe this will require a constitutional amendment because requirement for POTUS is very simple.
US born, 35 years old, resident for 14 years.

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3:​

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3:​

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

A law to simplify enforcement of this should be passed. Though now I'd say running for President in contravention of this should be prosecutable as conspiracy or sedition. And can't someone seek an injunction to stop the candidacy?

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3:​

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

But tRump would have to be convicted first. tRump's insurrection co-conspirators would surely insist on that. If an unlikely or unfortunate circumstance puts Traitor Don in the WH the guilty party(s) with the help of the SC would likely make that amendment useless.

[Rajoo]

If Trump is convicted of insurrection and he wins the presidency, I would expect the Blue states to petition the Supreme Court and I do not see from reading the 14th Sec. 3 how they can vote to uphold his election. But then in a rational country, he should and would have been impeached.

I still hold hope that he will be indicted for insurrection considering Meadows and Giuliani have been interviewed by Jack Smith or perhaps they have testified in front of a grand jury. More importantly, this case will be brought up in a DC court.

[Ike Bana]

One more time...

If there's one factor that will allow for the possible collapse of this experiment, it's a Constitution that is still in force, that was written by and for, the land owning, and slave owning elite. The men who had the audacity to sign off on a document that suggested "all men are created equal", when it should have said, "all white males of property are created equal."

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

The men who had the audacity to sign off on a document that suggested "all men are created equal", when it should have said, "all white males of property are created equal."

So they undermined their status.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

So they undermined their status.

No...they just lied their fat white supremacist slave owning/slave trading elitist asses off.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

No...they just lied their fat white supremacist slave owning/slave trading elitist asses off.

Those white supremacists slave owning/slave traders were really dumb to include such a statement.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

So they undermined their status.

Blacks, Jews, Catholics, Irish and Italians "undermining their status" has been the rationale and driving force behind nearly all racist and xenophobic actions taken by "conservatives" and the Christian Right since the very beginning.