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[Chicks]

Facts are to Whell as water is to a duck’s back.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Facts are to Whell as water is to a duck’s back.

Reality has a liberal bias. As quaint and seemingly sarcastic as this saying seems, it's unfortunately quite true.

[RickeyM]

Oh I think your boy tRump goes a little harder, a little further than just "questioning" the results of the 2020 election. In his own words it was stolen from him. He even went so far as to say, months before the election, that he would not accept the results unless he won. Did he disavow the strong language and words of the other speakers before him in the "Stop the Steal" rally that were revving the crowd into a fever pitch? You seem to expect us not to believe our own eyes and ears. You can cherry pick lines from his speech like you're speaking to a bunch of tRump idiots but we here are not. All the evidence presented by the Jan 6 investigation, which he wanted no Repubs to be a part of, shows he incited the attack but your denial of what the committee presented conveniently allows you to deny his involvement. whell buddy I know you're the author of this thread and will allow no arguments and facts to sway you but to anyone but the tRump cult, you come across as quite disingenuous. But hey, you keep doing you.

[whell]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Oh I think your boy tRump goes a little harder, a little further than just "questioning" the results of the 2020 election. In his own words it was stolen from him.

I'm not arguing that point. But, hey, if that's the conversation you want to have, by all means go enjoy yourself.

My point is that Clinton 2016 and Abrams (2018) claimed their elections were "stolen." Where is the same level of indignation in the press about those two "big lie", "election-denying" Dems. Hint - It doesn't exist.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by whell

I'm not arguing that point. But, hey, if that's the conversation you want to have, by all means go enjoy yourself.

My point is that Clinton 2016 and Abrams (2018) claimed their elections were "stolen." Where is the same level of indignation in the press about those two "big lie", "election-denying" Dems. Hint - It doesn't exist.

Trump's efforts to literally steal the election were out front in the open and not deniable, except for delusional revisionists. Stop making a fool of yourself with this nonsense.

Re Hillz and Abrams;
Please cite the exact quoted full context statements and sources that they made these claims, otherwise it is disinformation nonsense that never happened.
We'll wait here for your response.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

Trump's efforts to literally steal the election were out front in the open and not deniable, except for delusional revisionists. Stop making a fool of yourself with this nonsense.

Re Hillz and Abrams;
Please cite the exact quoted full context statements and sources that they made these claims, otherwise it is disinformation nonsense that never happened.
We'll wait here for your response.

No need to wait. I already did, in post 2667. I'm surprised you don't already know about these statements. But for your convenience, here's Clinton:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...40f_story.html

https://twitter.com/bigfootmeds/stat...41314519232512

As far as Abrams:

She joined Dems in claiming "racist" voter suppression in GA: https://www.politifact.com/article/2...y-abrams-gove/

She never conceded the 2018 election, and she claimed in 2019 "We won".
https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/03/s...s-concede-nan/

...and she appears to doing it again in 2022, even though early turnout in GA is at a record pace.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...early-turnout/

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by whell

No need to wait. I already did, in post 2667. I'm surprised you don't already know about these statements. But for your convenience, here's Clinton:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...40f_story.html

https://twitter.com/bigfootmeds/stat...41314519232512

As far as Abrams:

She joined Dems in claiming "racist" voter suppression in GA: https://www.politifact.com/article/2...y-abrams-gove/

She never conceded the 2018 election, and she claimed in 2019 "We won".
https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/03/s...s-concede-nan/

...and she appears to doing it again in 2022, even though early turnout in GA is at a record pace.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...early-turnout/

You went all the way back to 2019 for Hills and you still haven't shown her "ranting" for anything. For tRump's ranting we only need go back to last weekend. Now show us where either Hills or Abrams toured the country spouting that the election was stolen from them for nearly two years now.
I'll wait.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

No need to wait. I already did, in post 2667. I'm surprised you don't already know about these statements. But for your convenience, here's Clinton:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...40f_story.html

https://twitter.com/bigfootmeds/stat...41314519232512

As far as Abrams:

She joined Dems in claiming "racist" voter suppression in GA: https://www.politifact.com/article/2...y-abrams-gove/

She never conceded the 2018 election, and she claimed in 2019 "We won".
https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/03/s...s-concede-nan/

...and she appears to doing it again in 2022, even though early turnout in GA is at a record pace.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...early-turnout/

And here we have Trump instructing Blake Masters (GOP Senate Candidate in AZ) to lie more about the 2016 election or he will lose the base.

Former President Donald Trump took Blake Masters to task after the Arizona Republican Senate nominee said in a debate this month that he hadn’t seen evidence of election fraud in Arizona.

During a phone call between Trump and Masters captured in a Fox documentary at some point after the debate, the former President can be heard encouraging Masters to lean into his unfounded election fraud claims.

“If you want to get across the line, you’ve got to go stronger on that one thing. That was the one thing, a lot of complaints about it,” Trump told Masters before pointing to Arizona Republican gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake as an example.

“Look at Kari. Kari’s winning with very little money. And if they say, ‘How is your family?’ she says the election was rigged and stolen. You’ll lose if you go soft. You’re going to lose that base,” Trump said.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/25/polit...ion/index.html

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

No need to wait. I already did, in post 2667. I'm surprised you don't already know about these statements. But for your convenience, here's Clinton:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...40f_story.html

https://twitter.com/bigfootmeds/stat...41314519232512

As far as Abrams:

She joined Dems in claiming "racist" voter suppression in GA: https://www.politifact.com/article/2...y-abrams-gove/

She never conceded the 2018 election, and she claimed in 2019 "We won".
https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/03/s...s-concede-nan/

...and she appears to doing it again in 2022, even though early turnout in GA is at a record pace.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...early-turnout/

Regarding Clinton, she saw Trump publicly solicit help from the Russians and reasonably believed that the Russians helped him win the election.

As for Abrams, she reasonably believed that Georgia Republicans passed laws to deliberately suppress the black vote in the wake of SCOTUS gutting the Voting Rights Act.

Trump, OTOH, never had a reason to believe he won and recent sworn testimony demonstrates he (and everyone around him) knew he lost and had planned his antics well before the election. The testimony revealed that he told DOJ officials to simply (and falsely) announce election fraud and he and his Republican Congressional friends would "do the rest." He also said to a White House staffer not to admit he lost because "it was too embarrassing." Knowing that he lost, he planned an autocoup and incited a riot to pressure Congress to install him as President.

In short, under scrutiny your comparison falls apart completely and is a BS post-facto rationalization of Trump's outrageous and criminal behavior.

[Rajoo]

Is that the latest alternative facts, that Trump asked the crowd at his rally near the Whiet House to march peaceably to the capitol and hug the Capitol police?