Durham's Investigations Fizzles

[whell]

Originally Posted by Oerets

"""The OLC opinion also recognizes that a President does not have immunity after he leaves office," they added. "Given those considerations, the facts known to us, and the strong public interest in safeguarding the integrity of the criminal justice system, we conducted a thorough factual investigation in order to preserve the evidence when memories were fresh and documentary materials were available."

That wording leaves open the possibility that Trump could be charged with obstruction of justice once he leaves office.""

Addressed this in a prior post. Here we are more than 2 years after Trump has left office, and no charges have been filed. In the current political environment, that speaks volumes. The same can be said for the "evidence" of Russian "collusion".

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Addressed this in a prior post. Here we are more than 2 years after Trump has left office, and no charges have been filed. In the current political environment, that speaks volumes. The same can be said for the "evidence" of Russian "collusion".

Barr poisoned the well on the Mueller findings. No matter. Dear Leader has indictments aplenty forthcoming.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Chicks

SPECIAL ME

Sense of self-importance
Preoccupation with power, beauty, or success
Entitled
Can only be around people who are important or special
Interpersonally exploitative for their own gain
Arrogant
Lack empathy
Must be admired
Envious of others or believe that others are envious of them

Also very much the DSM-IV-TR diagnostic criteria for narcissistic personality disorder. Over the years there were quite a few narcissists in my caseload. But I'll tell y'all something...in over 25 years I've observed only one person who fulfills every one of the nine DSM-IV-TR criteria.

Donald Trump

There are a few different types. Harmless, but annoying are the oblivious narcissists, who just dont get why nobody likes them. More problematic are the hostile narcissists, who go out of their way to be impossibly cruel. And then there are the malignant narcissists like Trump. They are a dangrous disease to those around them. Typically able to wreak havoc and destruction without breaking the law. Just ask some of the people who went into business with Donald Trump and ended up bankrupt. Trump has only one actual skill...the weaponizing of our flawed legal system.

[Oerets]

How can one argue with any who continue to support along with defend one with 5M judgment fresh and new. Days old then does the same thing again on camera. Ding dong Don, new ammo for defamation case.......

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by whell

I have acknowledged it a number of times. The bottom line: Mueller exercised his prosecutorial authority and declined to pursue charges.

You lie like a dog. Mueller did not decline to charge Trump. DOJ policy going back to Nixon prohibited Mueller from charging Trump. Mueller did not have the prosecutorial authority to charge a sitting president with the obstruction of justice he committed. And Mueller confirmed that when questioned by Nadler.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

You lie like a dog. Mueller did not decline to charge Trump. DOJ policy going back to Nixon prohibited Mueller from charging Trump. Mueller did not have the prosecutorial authority to charge a sitting president with the obstruction of justice he committed. And Mueller confirmed that when questioned by Nadler.

All for a good cause. Thuggery, Collusion, Insurrection, Theft, Sexual Assault, Election Fraud, Election Interference............list is endless.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Crossfire Hurricane was an FBI investigation based on a lie and razor-thin evidence that spun out of control in an effort to put meat on that narrative...

Bullshit. The DOE-IG, the SSCI and Durham himself all agreed that Crossfire Hurricane was properly predicated. Durham's squabble was that he (by far the least credible of three) thought that CH should have been a preliminary investigation instead of a full investigation notwithstanding the fact that it would have moved up to a full investigation anyway considering all the criminality they found.

Durham clearly had an agenda, inappropriately worked in close collaboration with Barr (not what a Special Counsel is supposed to do), and had no personal experience with FBI Counterintelligence policies and procedures. Mueller's multiple indictments, convictions and guilty pleas show clearly that both the DOE-IG and the SSCI were right and Durham was wrong.

Meanwhile, your squeaky-clean Dear Leader appeared again in court today (via videolink) as a defendant in 34 felony counts. You're spending a lot of emotional energy trying to convince your self that Trump is not a criminal and a fraud. Considering what is likely to come his way on the legal front over the next year, you really should consider something else to occupy some of your mental real estate.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by whell

I have acknowledged it a number of times. The bottom line: Mueller exercised his prosecutorial authority and declined to pursue charges. It happens every day in America.

That said, I have a question for you, and yes its a hypothetical so you don't need to respond to it.

If you were President at that time, and you knew that the stuff being published in the paper was false but being repeated as "fact" and supported by unnamed sources, you knew that what your political opponents were saying was false, would you react? Would you ask your acting AG not to appoint a special prosecutor? Would you fire your FBI director, who treated information in a "dossier" that he knew to be false as information that was appropriate for a presidential briefing (and who, quite frankly, behaved in an absolutely inexplicable manner as it relates to the Clinton email investigation)? In doing any of the above, would you consider yourself as someone who was obstructing justice, or would you think that you were trying to stop a miscarriage of justice?

Blah blah blah. You maintain the Mueller report didn't find what it did. You maintain Mueller didn't do what he could. You maintain the Durham investigation found what it didn't. You refuse to accept the reality of what tRump is. Some might call that disingenuous.
P.S. I already know what you'll say when tRump gets indicted for trying to stage a coup.
P.P.S., I don't debate make-believes (hypotheticals).

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Barr poisoned the well on the Mueller findings. No matter. Dear Leader has indictments aplenty forthcoming.

Weak. Barr's report is only a couple weeks old. If there was any weight to the allegations of collusion or obstruction, where's Justice been for the last 2.5 years?

[whell]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Blah blah blah.

One of your more thoughtful responses...