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Old 07-11-2015, 10:13 PM
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Being a native Floridian I am very familiar with Lake County and it's history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groveland_Case
Here's another quaint Florida story of racial harmony.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosewood_massacre
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:01 AM
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The progress from public lynchings by the KKK to where we are today has been a series of steps. We can only hope that the removal of a symbol of racism from public display will be another step of progress.

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A small step considering the state flags of Mississippi and Georgia.
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Old 07-12-2015, 09:32 AM
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Here's another quaint Florida story of racial harmony.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosewood_massacre
Plenty more where that came from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_T._Moore

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On Christmas night, 1951, a bomb went off beneath the house of Moore and his wife in Mims, Florida. It was the Moores' twenty-fifth wedding anniversary. They were fatally injured; Moore died on the way to the hospital in Sanford, Florida. His wife died from her injuries nine days later.

Moore has been called the first martyr in the Civil Rights Movement. He was the first NAACP official murdered in the civil rights struggle. The murders caused a national and international outcry, with protests registered at the United Nations against violence in the South. The NAACP held a huge rally in New York, where the renowned poet Langston Hughes read a poem written in memory of Moore.[6]

The state of Florida called the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to help with the investigation, but no indictments were brought. There were rumors that McCall was involved in the bombings but no evidence has been found to support that allegation. (In 2005, the Florida Attorney General's office re-opened the case, naming four suspects long involved in KKK activities; see below).

In 1951 eleven other black families in Florida had suffered bombings.[6] The risk to civil rights activists and any blacks in the South was high and continued to be so. According to a later report from the NAACP's Southern Regional Council in Atlanta, the homes of forty black Southern families were bombed during 1951 and 1952. Some, like Harry Moore, were activists whose work exposed them to danger, but most were either people who had refused to bow to racist convention, or were simply "innocent bystanders, unsuspecting victims of random white terrorism."[7
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I'm still interested in what's behind the animosity between the neighborhood black kids and this family. Why are they repeatedly confronting each other?
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Old 07-12-2015, 02:38 PM
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... and here I thought taking that damned flag down in Columbia would stop all this. Guess I was wrong.
Taking a flag down won't stop much of anything. But, it might teach some folks a lesson about being proud of a shameful past. Not an end all to the problem of racism, to be sure. But, it is a step in the right direction; Putting that rag in it's proper place.....a museum. Where it should have gone and STAYED in 1865.
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"Ah, TRADITION
Some argue there is a "tradition" of hate and social intolerance for "other" races that is symbolized by the Confederate Flag. Some say the flag just honors those that gave their lives to continue the tradition of hate that lead to the Civil War. And some argue that slavery and hate had nothing to do with the Civil War but it was about the rights of a state to treat human beings like property if they pleased. I say that the time for reality is long overdue and hate that is expressed overtly or covertly (voting restrictions) is not American and should not be tolerated let alone honored."

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Old 07-12-2015, 05:08 PM
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I'm still interested in what's behind the animosity between the neighborhood black kids and this family. Why are they repeatedly confronting each other?
I don't know that it's "repeatedly". As I understand it, the altercation that got the woman arrested was a continuation of an earlier one but we don't know the nature of it. If I had to guess, it would be something like:

#1: What are you %#@*&s doing in this neighborhood? Get the hell back where you belong!

#2: I thought I told you %#@*&s to stay the hell away from here!

More or less like the Texas pool party but split into two parts.
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... and here I thought taking that damned flag down in Columbia would stop all this. Guess I was wrong.
In the short term, taking the flag down will have its greatest effect in intensifying the sense of grievance that the racists who honor that symbol already feel toward blacks and the libruls who coddle them.

Maybe when they're all dead...........
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In the short term, taking the flag down will have its greatest effect in intensifying the sense of grievance that the racists who honor that symbol already feel toward blacks and the libruls who coddle them.

Maybe when they're all dead...........
Their sense of victimhood is now ratified by your call for genocide!
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In the short term, taking the flag down will have its greatest effect in intensifying the sense of grievance that the racists who honor that symbol already feel toward blacks and the libruls who coddle them.

Maybe when they're all dead...........
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Their sense of victimhood is now ratified by your call for genocide!
I'm not sure it would be "genocide" if we simply sit back and watch the clock as time and old age act as the avengers.

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