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06-19-2014, 10:16 AM
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The President has failed to put pressure on the Central American Governments.
The aid and transportation of thousands of children to the US border, which has been occurring for several years now, is obviously a huge criminal enterprise.
The Central American Govts have turned a blind eye. Probably because some of their functionaries profit from it and these countries, especially El Salvador, finds an escape valve for some of their most vicious gang bangers.
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06-19-2014, 10:48 AM
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I wonder how much good we could do here with the 30 billion dollars the teabaggerz cost the USA by trying to shut down the government?
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06-19-2014, 10:48 AM
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I know...let's have the CIA go back into the Central American right-wing junta government takeover business. We'll have all the influence we want. All we have to do is look the other way whenever the next couple dozen Catholic nuns are found raped, murdered and dumped in a shallow grave.
Bring back Cordova, Somoza, Rios Montt, Noriega, and in El Salvador we'll resurrect the ghosts of Alfredo Cristiani and his boss, the guy who was actually in charge in El Salvador, the CIA trained, charming and delightful, Roberto "Blowtorch Bob" D'Aubuisson. No more problems with those unresponsive Central American governments, eh?
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06-19-2014, 11:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ike Bana
I know...let's have the CIA go back into the Central American right-wing junta government takeover business. We'll have all the influence we want. All we have to do is look the other way whenever the next couple dozen Catholic nuns are found raped, murdered and dumped in a shallow grave.
Bring back Cordova, Somoza, Rios Montt, Noriega, and in El Salvador we'll resurrect the ghosts of Alfredo Cristiani and his boss, the guy who was actually in charge in El Salvador, the CIA trained, charming and delightful, Roberto "Blowtorch Bob" D'Aubuisson. No more problems with those unresponsive Central American governments, eh?
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This is way over the top to cloud the President's lack of pressure.
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06-19-2014, 11:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
This is way over the top to cloud the President's lack of pressure.
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No, it's history.
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06-19-2014, 11:25 AM
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No, it's history.
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History yes, but not one which is needed here by this Govt to press Central
American govt on the particular problem.
Bilateral effort to investigate who are the people involve in this wholesale
human trafficking?
How the systems operates and how can we break it?
Or probably the President is not concerned, since he sees it as augmenting his base. One cannot help but be cynical at this point.
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06-19-2014, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
History yes, but not one which is needed here by this Govt to press Central
American govt on the particular problem.
Bilateral effort to investigate who are the people involve in this wholesale
human trafficking?
How the systems operates and how can we break it?
Or probably the President is not concerned, since he sees it as augmenting his base. One cannot help but be cynical at this point.
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What makes you think that the president is encouraging this? Lack of evidence isn't evidence of something.
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06-19-2014, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
History yes, but not one which is needed here by this Govt to press Central
American govt on the particular problem.
Bilateral effort to investigate who are the people involve in this wholesale
human trafficking?
How the systems operates and how can we break it?
Or probably the President is not concerned, since he sees it as augmenting his base. One cannot help but be cynical at this point.
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Who's going to put through the spending authorization and funding bill?
Lots of "should be doing" going on considering all the screaming we hear about deficits and spending.
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06-19-2014, 04:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
This is way over the top to cloud the President's lack of pressure.
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Here's what I say. Neither this president, nor any future president, nor anybody else in this country is in any position to crab about what goes on in Central or South America after the murder and mayhem the CIA generated in Central and South America between the end of WWII and the end of the cold war. Much less pressure or intervene in any way in the affairs of sovereign nations in Central and South America. We're still paying for it in Central America. We're still paying for it for our arrogance in Iran in the 1050's and 1960's. We're still paying for our arrogance in Iraq in the 1980's. We already paid through the nose for our arrogance in Vietnam in the 1950's when Ho Chi Minh came to this country for help and we hung him and the Vietminh out to dry and twist in the wind in favor of the French rubber plantation barons. We're paying for it all over the world.
Way over the top, my ass.
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06-19-2014, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ike Bana
Here's what I say. Neither this president, nor any future president, nor anybody else in this country is in any position to crab about what goes on in Central or South America after the murder and mayhem the CIA generated in Central and South America between the end of WWII and the end of the cold war. Much less pressure or intervene in any way in the affairs of sovereign nations in Central and South America. We're still paying for it in Central America. We're still paying for it for our arrogance in Iran in the 1050's and 1960's. We're still paying for our arrogance in Iraq in the 1980's. We already paid through the nose for our arrogance in Vietnam in the 1950's when Ho Chi Minh came to this country for help and we hung him and the Vietminh out to dry and twist in the wind in favor of the French rubber plantation barons. We're paying for it all over the world.
Way over the top, my ass.
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