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Old 06-12-2014, 11:51 AM
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Drug Cartels ,CIA,DEA all Fall under National Security so the move with impunity.I don't know why bothering with much of the topics that go on here ,But most everything is all buttoned up and not open to discussion,henceforth,Media,journalism government majority of american citizens all Bought and paid for.Some of you are probably too.Hard to tell deniability runs high in America.
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As long as the Democrats want immigration reform for cheap votes and Republicans (more specifically, industry) want it for cheap and compliant labor, it's all talk anyway. Democrats benefit electorally from Republican intransigence, so much of their talk in favor of immigration reform is just that - talk.

As for a path to citizenship, the path has been made so arduous that it's more of an Outward Bound obstacle course. Those willing/able to go through these hoops are probably more deserving of citizenship than the xenophobic 'Baggers trying to stop it from occurring (while living in states that suck disproportionately from the Federal tit).

As for a "legal status" short of citizenship, it is a decidedly bad idea. The Germans did it with the Gastarbeiters (guest workers, mostly Turkish) and it brings with it a mechanism for continued exploitation. In short, it solves employers's desires for cheap and compliant labor (what the GOP wants), while treating the immigrants unfairly (not to mention not giving Democrats the votes they want). It's a non-starter.
I'm taking this post as your tacit approval of the current gridlock on the issue, unless you have another perspective not evident in this post.
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The Mexican drug lords have nothing to do with this, unless they're somehow profiting from the movement of these kids through across their turf.
Well then You Are naive.
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Old 06-12-2014, 11:53 AM
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While the politicians were busy fighting over left and right issues America got sold from underneath them.
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The Mexican drug lords have nothing to do with this, unless they're somehow profiting from the movement of these kids through across their turf.
To be clearer the drug lords are keeping the Mexican govt so damn busy the don't have the resources to guard against the child smugglers.
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Old 06-12-2014, 12:30 PM
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While the politicians were busy fighting over left and right issues America got sold from underneath them.
The illegals by themselves have now become a powerful lobby.

They intimidate and frighten elected representatives.
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Old 06-12-2014, 12:32 PM
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I'm taking this post as your tacit approval of the current gridlock on the issue, unless you have another perspective not evident in this post.
The gridlock is on your side, Whell. Some sort of "path to citizenship" is the only viable method.
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Old 06-12-2014, 12:36 PM
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The gridlock is on your side, Whell. Some sort of "path to citizenship" is the only viable method.
But the problem will be a constant if thousands still flood the border.
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Old 06-12-2014, 12:38 PM
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But the problem will be a constant if thousands still flood the border.
It has to be part of a comprehensive program.
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Old 06-12-2014, 12:43 PM
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The gridlock is on your side, Whell. Some sort of "path to citizenship" is the only viable method.
More BS. But I'm sure it makes you feel better to believe that.

Besides, I thought Harry Reid fixed all the gridlock with the "nuclear option"?
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