"I’m an Army veteran, and my benefits are too generous"

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Yeah, that is bizarre for a military member (or anyone else for that matter) to be complaining that his own benefits are excessive. Either he's planning to run for office or he's crazy. I think the military and civil service folks are treated right and the rest of us are getting ripped off.

Dave

Quoted for truth.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Put-up job. Scripted.

There are a lot of right wing shills these days.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

There are a lot of right wing shills these days.

with all that Koch money of course there is.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by icenine

A pilot who puts his life on the line by landing on an aircraft carrier may decide a 401k instead of a pension is not worth the risk.

But a pilot who lands on an aircraft carrier will probably find a post-discharge career flying jetliners for American, United, or Continental, plus your military pension to be quite worth the risk.

[Oerets]

I have no problem with someone who retires from the Military. They I feel earned the benefits with the sacrifices endured. Agree whole heartily in the comments about this being a propaganda piece out up by those with an dark agenda. One to pit those without a retirement to look forward to against those who do now.
Another one of they ways two people can look at a third who has a good job with benefits and retirement. One will say ""I don't have that, and should!"" The other will say "" I don't have that so they shouldn't either!""


BTW, should be noted my Father retired from the Navy. My youth was spent as a son of a Chief. Moving across this country and having to witness the sacrifices. There is a reason few make it to twenty.

Barney

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

But a pilot who lands on an aircraft carrier will probably find a post-discharge career flying jetliners for American, United, or Continental, plus your military pension to be quite worth the risk.

Actually it is not as easy to get those jobs as you think. And helicopter pilots generally do not fly once they are out.....just not enough demand in the civilians world for choppers.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by icenine

Actually it is not as easy to get those jobs as you think. And helicopter pilots generally do not fly once they are out.....just not enough demand in the civilians world for choppers.

Yep. For instance, military jet mechanics don't need an A&P license to work. In the civilian world, virtually every employer requires it, because it is a tightly controlled FAA program that puts you through eighteen months of some pretty thorough training in all the aspects of aircraft maintenance. The military tends to only train people in very narrow specialties. And, even after you get it, you must start all over again going through additional training if you want the good, strong paying job at an airline, anyways. Most military jet mechs get discouraged at this and go into something else when the leave the military.

Despite what you may have heard, military experience doesn't really count for much in the civilian world.

And, if your "specialty" was in artillery, well...........

You get the picture.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Your civilian A&Ps (airframe and powerplant mechs) are more highly trained than the military mechanics. It's the truth.

Dave

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by icenine

Actually it is not as easy to get those jobs as you think. And helicopter pilots generally do not fly once they are out.....just not enough demand in the civilians world for choppers.

Used to be just about every Helo pilot in Alaska was a Vietnam vet. There are still a few, but most have retired or were forced out when they could no longer pass the flight physical.
It's scary flying with some of these young guys after so much time with the vets. Immediately obvious in the way they fly.
One of the vets flew out of Kodiak for many years, and had quite a reputation. Drinking with him one night and he made the comment that Silver Stars were only given out when you did something stupid and lived to talk about it.
"How many you got Tom?" I asked.
"Two"

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Used to be just about every Helo pilot in Alaska was a Vietnam vet. There are still a few, but most have retired or were forced out when they could no longer pass the flight physical.
It's scary flying with some of these young guys after so much time with the vets. Immediately obvious in the way they fly.
One of the vets flew out of Kodiak for many years, and had quite a reputation. Drinking with him one night and he made the comment that Silver Stars were only given out when you did something stupid and lived to talk about it.
"How many you got Tom?" I asked.
"Two"

Sounds like a story a friend of my Dad told.. He got the DCM in WW I and when asked how he said he was on guard duty one night and hear a noise. He challenged but got no answer so he fired, In the morning they found a dead cat so theygave him the DCM Distinguished Cat Murderer.