David Bonior gets a lesson in reality

[whell]

Originally Posted by barbara

Wrong.
Food service jobs are notorious for not providing health care benefits.

Generally, if benefits are offered at all, it is to management

Shit, even McDonalds offered a mini-med policy before Obamacare out-lawed it.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

What a difference, before I retired from Bell I was getting six weeks paid vacation and there was no such silliness as a given number of sick days per year. Difference between civilization and here.

Employers here must have control over the number of days they will allow you to be sick.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by whell

Shit, even McDonalds offered a mini-med policy before Obamacare out-lawed it.

OMG. Such overwhelming generosity squelched by our jackbooted Stalinistic government once again.

[bobabode]

Only an HR dude would hold up McDonald's as some type of paragon of virtue employer. Cryin' about the ACA for banning shitty medical insurance got a chuckle, thanks Mike.

[barbara]

Yep.... Mcdonalds, one of the biggest food chains there is, offered a crappy health benefit.

And all the other food service jobs out there.....the local chains, the mom and pops.... Not so much.

More on mcdonalds health care benefit that was outlawed by obamacare;

http://money.cnn.com/2010/10/05/news...nalds.fortune/


It should have been outlawed long before obamacare.

[BlueStreak]

"The most affordable plan at McDonald's charges hourly workers about $14 a week, which comes to $727.48 annually. In return, they get $2,000 worth of coverage per year. If they step on a nail or come down with the flu, they might be covered, but the costs paid by the insurer may not even equal their premiums. If they are diagnosed with cancer, or even appendicitis, they are as vulnerable as someone with no insurance at all."

Just as I suspected. Offer nearly useless coverage, make the already low paid employee pay part or all of the premium, then crow that; "Hey, we offer our employees health coverage.".

It's all just done to say they did it. No one actually benefits from it much.

I remember working a minimum wage job back in the eighties. At the time, IIRC, the minimum wage was $3.35/hour. One day, management announces the fantastic new offering of "medical benefits to all employees" in the local newspaper.

The deal?

The went out and found a group plan that any employee could sign up for. But, you pay 100% the premiums yourself. For me, it would have been ~$300/month. That's more than two weeks pay. Of course, no one signed up. But, hey they "offered" it.

The point was public relations, not employee benefit.

Dave

[whell]

Originally Posted by barbara

Yep.... Mcdonalds, one of the biggest food chains there is, offered a crappy health benefit.

And all the other food service jobs out there.....the local chains, the mom and pops.... Not so much.

More on mcdonalds health care benefit that was outlawed by obamacare;

http://money.cnn.com/2010/10/05/news...nalds.fortune/


It should have been outlawed long before obamacare.

I'm glad we agree that they offered some form of health insurance. See? That wasn't so hard was it?

[barbara]

Originally Posted by whell

I'm glad we agree that they offered some form of health insurance. See? That wasn't so hard was it?

Point is, contrary to your initial claim, most food service jobs do not offer health benefits.

And, then you offer the health benefits offered by McDonalds to bolster your claim and they rip off their employees with the health care benefits they offer.

See? That wasn't so hard, was it.

[whell]

Originally Posted by barbara

Point is, contrary to your initial claim, most food service jobs do not offer health benefits.

And, then you offer the health benefits offered by McDonalds to bolster your claim and they rip off their employees with the health care benefits they offer.

See? That wasn't so hard, was it.

What seems to be hard here is your head. My "initial claim" by the way was that many food service chains offer health benefits. You, then, started yapping about food service jobs in general. You do understand the difference, dontcha?

As far as "ripping off" their employees, that s simply asinine. The very point of this thread is that folks like Bonior, when he was in office, and apparently you, regard employers as folks whose sole purpose is to see to the financial security and welfare of their employees. Bonior needed to exit government and start running his own business to figure out that running his own business was difficult enough. I wonder what it would take for you?

[merrylander]

The point of this thread is that like 99% of the threads here of late have no point. all I see is talking points or rather yelling points. We are defined by the other person's concept (valid or not) of that person's idea of what our political beliefs are. Once that label has been applied everything anyone posts is read through colored glasses. A shining example is Mike's rude response to Barbara's post.

So since there is nowt to be gained here in PC since trollishness has taken over I will soend my time on more useful pusuits Adieu.