Carter Attacking Obama?

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by bhunter

I and the North Wind are in agreement. I've never liked the drone program because it makes it too convenient for those that wield them. They also have the potential to become widespread and are cheap enough that small nations or even non-state actors could deploy them. I've disliked Carter since the 70s, but here I think he just might be right.

Dude, they sell R/C "Spy Drones" at Walmart..............................

A radio controlled helicopter with a camera mounted on it. Welcome to the age of high tech Peeping Toms.

Seriously.

Dave

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by CarlV

If using a drone saves an American life then I'm good with it.


Carl

Yeah, me too. What's funny is that this star wars drone thing is straight out of right wing techno crazed MIC and just now it's abhorrent to them? Just more trash talkin', no more no less. The ratio of collateral damage is miniscule, comparatively. When did the rightys lose their balls?

[icenine]

I would rather use drones than have another several thousand young people die in some neocon invasion looking for weapons of mass destruction that do not exist. Obama is once again using drone technology that was developed into a fine art by.....you guessed it....BUSH!

The erudite fellow from AZ needs to change his signature.....

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

The worst Prez we had until the current Marxist moved into the White House.

What makes Obie so bad?

I think many folks are just hatin' on the black man.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by icenine

I would rather use drones than have another several thousand young people die in some neocon invasion looking for weapons of mass destruction that do not exist. Obama is once again using drone technology that was developed into a fine art by.....you guessed it....BUSH!

The erudite fellow from AZ needs to change his signature.....

Every time I hear this it gets under my skin.

So what if Iraq did have WMD's?

We were still just as wrong to go in a second time.

The country was contained and Saddam was a rational actor.

He did have them the first time we went in and he still did not use them.

It is just so frustrating, then and now, when people justified war because of WMD's.

[piece-itpete]

There's good arguments on both sides, but Saddam a rational actor?

Pete

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

There's good arguments on both sides, but Saddam a rational actor?

Pete

But of course, in a ruthless dictator kind of way.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

There's good arguments on both sides, but Saddam a rational actor?

Pete

Yes, totally rational. Evil but rational. His fatal mistake was in assuming that the Bush, Cheney and the Neo-cons were rational as well.

John

[piece-itpete]

Paying rewards to suicide bombers families? Check. Invading ajacent countries? Check. Firing on US warplanes daily? Check.

Clearly rational.

Pete

[Zeke]

"1343 / 1488 = 0.902553763" That's an "A" for accuracy in any classroom in the world.

(From the article) Carter criticized the current president for keeping the Guantanamo Bay detention center open, where prisoners "have been tortured by waterboarding more than 100 times or intimidated with semiautomatic weapons, power drills or threats to sexually assault their mothers."

Not in three years.

I get the point, Gitmo is an international symbol for less than stellar United States activities but there are really only two choices: we can house these folks in the United States or on property controlled by the United States outside of the actual states or territories. (The population wasn't sanguine about moving these folks to detention centers in the contiguous 48 so we're left with the latter.)

Sum? We're left with military bases abroad. Which one is the closest? Gitmo.

The important part is that the atrocities are not ongoing.

Fuck Carter, go build houses.