This is very sad indeed 154 military suicides in 155 days

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

I don't believe that suicide report is accurate but if a few cowards hung
themselves because it was not a free ride through life on our coin then we
are better off anyway. Next

What an absolutely ignorant post. (Spoken in whispered astonishment.)

Thanks, Jack.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

The military brainwashes their people that any sign of "weakness" is to be ridiculed and attacked. This is why so many military and ex-military are so far right. I used to be that way, until I started getting a little older, having heart problems, arthritis issues and reality set in. I'm hoping that someday and the sooner the better, that the rest of my beloved country will snap out of this uber-Republican induced he-man bullshit and follow suit. Before the whole damn country turns into a troop of baboon.

And, I mean that most sincerely.

Dave

Well and truly written!

I have never understood the current training method, you take a young person and berate them loudly at every turn until you have wiped away their personality. Then you proceed to re-build them in your image. But when you are finished with them you don't put back the personality you destroyed, why?

That was not done in WW II, about all they got to know was how to shoot an M1 and how to march in step - yet they were the Greatest Generation. When they came home they were still mostly the person who went off to war except thay did have some memories they would rather have done without. Still underneath that burden were the good personalities originally there.

[wgrr]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

I don't believe that suicide report is accurate but if a few cowards hung
themselves because it was not a free ride through life on our coin then we
are better off anyway. Next

Believe whatever you want to. This is just the first result for the search, 154 military suicides in 155 days. There are many more.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/477262.../#.T9M-rhRRiTI

[Dondilion]

Military life is what it is ......tough. Is this expected? How thus this compare to other times..... whether in peace or at war?

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Well and truly written!

I have never understood the current training method, you take a young person and berate them loudly at every turn until you have wiped away their personality. Then you proceed to re-build them in your image. But when you are finished with them you don't put back the personality you destroyed, why?

That was not done in WW II, about all they got to know was how to shoot an M1 and how to march in step - yet they were the Greatest Generation. When they came home they were still mostly the person who went off to war except thay did have some memories they would rather have done without. Still underneath that burden were the good personalities originally there.

In WW2 there was no time, soldiers, sailors and Marines were pushed through basic quick and dirty then sent off to the frontlines----As I recall being told by older family members and other community members of my youth. In fact, most of the WW2 veterans I grew up in the presence of, believed we won due to their COLLECTIVE efforts and willingness to look out for each other.

NOT because they were a bunch of "enlightened self interest" bullshit believing selfish punk "individualists" who only give a damn about themselves and their own careers----Like my generation apparently is.

And, if anyone here thinks the issue of intolerance wasn't present during WW2...........
Patton was reprimanded for slapping a soldier who had "lost it"...........

Dave

[wgrr]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Military life is what it is ......tough. Is this expected? How thus this compare to other times..... whether in peace or at war?

I think the difference this time is we have never fought a war that is this protracted. We ask our men and women to go into battle three, four, and even five tours. War has become their lives for no reason at all. We are not there for any reason at all. Well, the military industrial complex is happy. (cue up Pink Floyd's "Money")

I had a helper a few years ago who was a .50 caliber sniper in Iraq. Oh, the stories he would tell at lunch time. He was all of 26 years old. He had a young wife and a newborn son. He had to leave the area because he could not afford to live here. Several months later I heard that he ate his deer rifle for lunch. So Sad.

[merrylander]

Kudos to the country singer Tim McGraw, he is donating all his concert proceeds to buy houses for vetrans. Unlike the wealthy bankers who are foreclosing on veterans families.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by wgrr

I think the difference this time is we have never fought a war that is this protracted. We ask our men and women to go into battle three, four, and even five tours. War has become their lives for no reason at all. We are not there for any reason at all. Well, the military industrial complex is happy. (cue up Pink Floyd's "Money")

I had a helper a few years ago who was a .50 caliber sniper in Iraq. Oh, the stories he would tell at lunch time. He was all of 26 years old. He had a young wife and a newborn son. He had to leave the area because he could not afford to live here. Several months later I heard that he ate his deer rifle for lunch. So Sad.

This is not really a war but a counter-insurgency. Your enemy does not wear a uniform, has no compunction about hiding amongst women and children. But you are expected to try and not hurt any civilians so you don't know that "that civilian" is a terrorist until he lobs an RPG at you.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

And, if anyone here thinks the issue of intolerance wasn't present during WW2...........
Patton was reprimanded for slapping a soldier who had "lost it"...........

Dave

And then he refused to show up to receive his Oscar.

Regards,

D-Ray

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

And then he refused to show up to receive his Oscar.

Regards,

D-Ray

Wasn't "just Hollywood"...............

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/...g-Soldier.html

Regards,
Dave