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01-19-2012, 06:59 PM
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That's better.
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01-19-2012, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_Bill
Well Dave,
Not to put down our fearless golf pro., but with the Black unemployment rate at 16.7%, I doubt that he will have the joyful throngs of voters rushing out to support his reelection. If any were to stay at home, it will most likely be those who elected him the first time.
Where do you think he will be living when he looses the election ?
Now don't get me wrong, cause I believe that Mitt will be just his twin brother that just can't play golf. And GFB that fat neut gets in, he'll just talk us all to death. What a dilemma, having to choose between all of these questionable gentlemen. Do you think Mr. Jimmy would come back ? Or Sarah !
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The workforce at my plant is about 90% black.
Trust me, after the recent comments made by GOP candidates, very few of them will be voting Republican if any. They know what's up, they've lived their whole lives dealing with it. And I'd say they hate it just enough to reelect Obama just to spite the bastards that spew it.
Dave
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01-19-2012, 07:14 PM
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That's better. 
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That's no fun, Zeke. You'll be missing out on a lot.
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01-19-2012, 09:23 PM
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That's no fun, Zeke. You'll be missing out on a lot. 
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I did the same for a while, because his comments were winding, twisting and spinning so fast they were making me nausious. Then, I kinda missed the ride, so I un-ignored him.
Dave
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01-19-2012, 10:25 PM
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Minority voters tend to not be swing voters, so even a poor showing by the democratic party during a current administration won't cause many votes to switch, kind of like the religious right won't have many swing voters jumping ship if Romney or Paul wins the nomination. Both groups are firmly inline with the party that does more for them as a large piece of society as a whole.
Santorum can't pull a swing vote with his ultra conservative social views.
Newt can't pull a swing vote because, well, he's Newt.
Paul can't pull a swing vote because his stance on a majority of issues go against societal norms, left or right included.
Romney is a moderate who can pull votes away from the left, the unfortunate part for the republican party is that he's also an easy target and since the Republican are incapable of not destroying one another, he'll probably not make a great showing, either.
I'm still not convinced that swing voters who went for hope and change are willing to think that hope and change can come from the group that caused the desire for hope and change to begin with.
It'll be interesting to see if the general reaction in the next election will be dissatisfaction with the president or dissatisfaction with the Tea Party types.
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01-20-2012, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by David Newman
Minority voters tend to not be swing voters, so even a poor showing by the democratic party during a current administration won't cause many votes to switch, kind of like the religious right won't have many swing voters jumping ship if Romney or Paul wins the nomination. Both groups are firmly inline with the party that does more for them as a large piece of society as a whole.
Santorum can't pull a swing vote with his ultra conservative social views.
Newt can't pull a swing vote because, well, he's Newt.
Paul can't pull a swing vote because his stance on a majority of issues go against societal norms, left or right included.
Romney is a moderate who can pull votes away from the left, the unfortunate part for the republican party is that he's also an easy target and since the Republican are incapable of not destroying one another, he'll probably not make a great showing, either.
I'm still not convinced that swing voters who went for hope and change are willing to think that hope and change can come from the group that caused the desire for hope and change to begin with.
It'll be interesting to see if the general reaction in the next election will be dissatisfaction with the president or dissatisfaction with the Tea Party types.
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In the bolded;
Can't say as I agree with this entirely. I know some who are sufficiently dissatisfied with Obama, to consider another candidate. But, as one coworker put it recently; "There is still plenty time for the Republicans to screw the pooch." (Which they seem bent on doing, I would ad.)
I don't think anyone would disagree that this will be a "Lesser of two Evils" type of election. Unless something truly shocking happens, I still think it's going to be closer than some assume.
Dave
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01-20-2012, 04:26 AM
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Loyal Opposition
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Bill
Well Dave,
Not to put down our fearless golf pro., but with the Black unemployment rate at 16.7%, I doubt that he will have the joyful throngs of voters rushing out to support his reelection. If any were to stay at home, it will most likely be those who elected him the first time.
Where do you think he will be living when he looses the election ?
Now don't get me wrong, cause I believe that Mitt will be just his twin brother that just can't play golf. And GFB that fat neut gets in, he'll just talk us all to death. What a dilemma, having to choose between all of these questionable gentlemen. Do you think Mr. Jimmy would come back ? Or Sarah !
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But if you listen to Fox and Rush, that 16.7% is the core of the Democratic constituency.
Regards,
D-Ray
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01-20-2012, 09:13 AM
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Obama will still get the black vote, of course. The black radio shows are already ramping up.
I doubt he'll get the same turnout though, black and youth. He oversold his hope and change bs so much he jaded a bunch of the youngsters that fell for it.
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....Mitt will be just his twin brother that just can't play golf.
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But, can he bowl gracefully?
Pete
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01-20-2012, 01:55 PM
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01-20-2012, 02:08 PM
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That whole thing was canned. Newt knew the question was coming as it was the big political talk yesterday (along with Perry bailing), so he prepared to answer it in the only way he could - blame the media for his own transgressions. It may endear him to those on the Right in need of a red meat fix. It'll do nothing for him with moderates and the ladies. He's a pompous prick.
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