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Old 01-19-2012, 06:38 PM
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Yeah, I know. But, when he talks about it------It's a bad thing.

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Not around here. The problem is he reveled himself and everyone found out it was just talk.....
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:51 PM
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Not around here. The problem is he reveled himself and everyone found out it was just talk.....
Everyone is just talk about our political system is built to never create drastic change. Slow, gradual, methodical change is about as much as we can expect.
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:33 AM
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Not around here. The problem is he reveled himself and everyone found out it was just talk.....
When the head of the Transportation committee is that idiot Mica from Florida don't expect any useful ideas re transportation.

Rail will move stuff more efficiently than any other method but do we subsidize it? Hell no says Mica.

But we subsidize trucking because you and I build the roads.

We subsidize air travel or do you know of an airport that was built by an airlne?

Stupid, stupid, stupid.
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:05 AM
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The 'high speed train' they were going to build in Ohio had an overall average speed of 39 mph.

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Old 01-20-2012, 02:12 PM
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The shame is it's only for possible poltical gain, but what isn't these daze, eh?

Hoping the thermo energy thing kicks off here in NV soon along with the bullet train to LA (though having more LA folks here would be the downside )
Hey, they might go to your place, rather than drive down the coast to mine.
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Old 01-20-2012, 05:05 PM
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The shame is it's only for possible poltical gain, but what isn't these daze, eh?

Hoping the thermo energy thing kicks off here in NV soon along with the bullet train to LA (though having more LA folks here would be the downside )
Isn't NV hot as hell and dry?

If so, build a super insulated home with a swamp cooler. And if I wasn't figuring on going to LA (which I ain't), I'd dynamite the tracks.

Just don't get caught.

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Old 01-20-2012, 05:48 PM
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Isn't NV hot as hell and dry?

If so, build a super insulated home with a swamp cooler. And if I wasn't figuring on going to LA (which I ain't), I'd dynamite the tracks.

Just don't get caught.

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In the summer it is and that's just southern NV. In the winter the desert is cold and dry. Not as cold as MO but far colder than most folks think and when you get used to it being 115 in the summer then 40 is pretty damn chilly

I do need to do some more insulating on this old house and a swamp cooler is in the plans (if we stay here). Don't want and of that nasty MO humidity. A large part of why I left MO.
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Hey, they might go to your place, rather than drive down the coast to mine.
At which point you and I will become neighbors
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:18 PM
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In the summer it is and that's just southern NV. In the winter the desert is cold and dry. Not as cold as MO but far colder than most folks think and when you get used to it being 115 in the summer then 40 is pretty damn chilly

I do need to do some more insulating on this old house and a swamp cooler is in the plans (if we stay here). Don't want and of that nasty MO humidity. A large part of why I left MO.
Since this is my business, I'll make a few suggestions.

Air infiltration is your biggest problem. Replace your doors and windows with something that seals up. On your windows, a good double insulated glass is just as good as the high priced stuff, as long as it seals up good. Low E glass is good if you get a lot of sunlight, don't waste your money on Argon filled, unless you can come out on a tax credit, and I think they're gone.

Once you do that, blow the attic full of fiberglass insulation, to at least R40.

And a cheap retrofit, which you could possible do yourself, it to frame 2x4 walls inside of your existing exterior walls. Stuff them with R13, rock them and install crown so you don't have to tape and finish the ceilings. This does three things. For one, you've probably doubled your R factor, not to mention that you've slowed down the air infiltration, but you have also eliminated the heat sink effect of the studs transmitting heat/cold through the walls.

These things will pay for themselves quicker than upgrading your HVAC system. Let's get serious, why drop a ton of change on a better furnace until you close the damn door? First things first.

Chas
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:42 PM
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Since this is my business, I'll make a few suggestions.

Air infiltration is your biggest problem. Replace your doors and windows with something that seals up. On your windows, a good double insulated glass is just as good as the high priced stuff, as long as it seals up good. Low E glass is good if you get a lot of sunlight, don't waste your money on Argon filled, unless you can come out on a tax credit, and I think they're gone.

Once you do that, blow the attic full of fiberglass insulation, to at least R40.

And a cheap retrofit, which you could possible do yourself, it to frame 2x4 walls inside of your existing exterior walls. Stuff them with R13, rock them and install crown so you don't have to tape and finish the ceilings. This does three things. For one, you've probably doubled your R factor, not to mention that you've slowed down the air infiltration, but you have also eliminated the heat sink effect of the studs transmitting heat/cold through the walls.

These things will pay for themselves quicker than upgrading your HVAC system. Let's get serious, why drop a ton of change on a better furnace until you close the damn door? First things first.

Chas
Absolutely. In residential structures, you lose a lot of heat through infiltration and not just conduction. Going through a modern tract home with a caulking gun can make a noticeable difference (above and below windows mostly).
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