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Old 10-27-2011, 08:47 AM
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There was a time in Britain where the police never carried guns and neither did the crooks. Simply because if you were caught with a weapon while committing a crime you did major time in the slammer. Which is exactly how it should be, especially as it seems the police are not disciplined enough to have weapons. There was a case in Baltimore where the police shot an off duty policeman - they fired forty shots!
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:00 PM
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Don't you yanks have both the highest gun ownership and the highest murder rate too?
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:36 PM
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Don't you yanks have both the highest gun ownership and the highest murder rate too?
Yes. We're exceptional in many ways.
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Old 10-27-2011, 09:22 PM
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The quintessential leftist view.
No.

The quintessential leftist view is that nobody should HAVE guns.

Actually demanding a level of accountability for their ownership or use strikes me as a Realist viewpoint.
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Old 10-27-2011, 09:39 PM
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No.

The quintessential leftist view is that nobody should HAVE guns.

Actually demanding a level of accountability for their ownership or use strikes me as a Realist viewpoint.
It's been against the law to go around shooting people without a damn good reason every since the Earth cooled. Even then you're most likely to go to court and drop a pocket full of change during the process.

When you look at the amount of legally possessed firearms there are in America, and how few people are killed with LEGALLY possessed arms...it makes a strong case for the accountability which most people hold themselves to.

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Old 10-27-2011, 09:43 PM
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When you look at the amount of legally possessed firearms there are in America, and how few people are killed with LEGALLY possessed arms...it makes a strong case for the accountability which most people hold themselves to.

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Which, of course, only leaves the ones who don't.
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Old 10-27-2011, 09:49 PM
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Don't you yanks have both the highest gun ownership and the highest murder rate too?
Possibly yes to your first query, no to the second.

But I'm from Bugtussell, and we still don't consider ourselves Yanks.

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Old 10-27-2011, 09:55 PM
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Which, of course, only leaves the ones who don't.
How did Mark Twain put it, "I was placed here to serve others, why the others were placed here I do not have a clue."...or something to that effect.

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Old 10-27-2011, 11:26 PM
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I see your point.
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Old 10-27-2011, 11:40 PM
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Possibly yes to your first query, no to the second.

But I'm from Bugtussell, and we still don't consider ourselves Yanks.

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Sorry, I should have been more specific. In what they used to call the first world. US and Canada, non-east block Europe, Japan, Australia, you have the highest murder rate.

And anyone living between the Canadian and Mexican borders is a Yank.
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