Obama's America

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

The economy, brought to you by MoveOn.

Pete

Truth hurts does it?

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Just have the govt coop business, hire all the unemployed - wa'la! Full employment.

See, I'm an economic genious lol.

Pete

that would work, tax people with jobs and pay people without jobs to build infrastructure and new century industries

see we agree

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/COMPRNFB

Pete

Unfortunately, that chart does not show how the growth in income has been divided. That is another story.

Regards,

D-Ray

[whell]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Unfortunately, that chart does not show how the growth in income has been divided. That is another story.

Regards,

D-Ray

Don't worry, your boys have a plan to fix it. Sounds a lot like the Bush plan, though!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...75L0GC20110622

[BlueStreak]

So, what happens when you get your Republican UberAmerican........and nothing improves?

Until consumerism rises, the economy will not move. Homes, for example, are way too expensive for a nation of retail store checkout clerks and hamburger flippers to own. As are new cars, and...Well, pretty much everything. And no, you damn tightwad, the answer isn't to eliminate the minimum wage, give employers more freedom to screw people out of every last dime they can, cut off unemployment benefits or lay any more people off. All of those things do nothing but further damage to the ability of average Americans to BUY THINGS.

Geez.

Dave

[merrylander]

Now where did I put that dead horse smiley?

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Unfortunately, that chart does not show how the growth in income has been divided. That is another story.

Regards,

D-Ray

Reading that, it really shows how much real growth we've had. Even with the 'rich getting richer' real compensation for shlubs like us has - gone up? Overall at least.

It appears the big question is when the bond market is going to turn on the US. All questions of job creation will become pretty much moot at that point.

Pete

[Combwork]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

So, what happens when you get your Republican UberAmerican........and nothing improves?

Until consumerism rises, the economy will not move. Homes, for example, are way too expensive for a nation of retail store checkout clerks and hamburger flippers to own. As are new cars, and...Well, pretty much everything. And no, you damn tightwad, the answer isn't to eliminate the minimum wage, give employers more freedom to screw people out of every last dime they can, cut off unemployment benefits or lay any more people off. All of those things do nothing but further damage to the ability of average Americans to BUY THINGS.

Geez.

Dave

It's not your inability to BUY THINGS, it's the unafordable cost of mass market goods "Made in the U.S.A."

Same in the U.K. "Made in Britain" was a mark of quality when things were built to last but not any more. People would rather buy a cheap DVD player then bin it in 12 months and buy the next generation cheap DVD player, both stamped Made in China.

[BlueStreak]

How do you propose going about making all things "Made in Britain" and "Made in the U.S.A." as affordable as "Made in China"?

BTW, it's not always true. I recently bought a Wahl hair clipper, "Made in the USA" for $28 USD. Nice clippers, solid, quiet, well built. On the same shelf clippers from Wahl and other manufacturers that looked cheap and plastic----same price, or maybe $1-2 less......"Made in China".

Maybe it's just the way I am. But, I'll part with a couple extra bucks for something that seems to be of higher quality. Sometimes even a lot more than a few bucks. Like that Musical Fidelity A3CD in the main system. $1,000 for a cd player is a ton of money, but it's an awesome deck...."Made in Great Britain" on the case.

Dave

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

How do you propose going about making all things "Made in Britain" and "Made in the U.S.A." as affordable as "Made in China"?

BTW, it's not always true. I recently bought a Wahl hair clipper, "Made in the USA" for $28 USD. Nice clippers, solid, quiet, well built. On the same shelf clippers from Wahl and other manufacturers that looked cheap and plastic----same price, or maybe $1-2 less......"Made in China".

Maybe it's just the way I am. But, I'll part with a couple extra bucks for something that seems to be of higher quality. Sometimes even a lot more than a few bucks. Like that Musical Fidelity A3CD in the main system. $1,000 for a cd player is a ton of money, but it's an awesome deck...."Made in Great Britain" on the case.

Dave

McIntosh CD player here, made in Binghamton NY, USA.