Republicans Are All Talk...Again!

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

They promised $100 Billion in cuts. They won in a landslide and they pull this. I don't get it. I think the country is ready for a little pain...but not this much. The Tea Party will start to exterminate these frauds today.

Ha, okay. We'll see. The Tea Party is different from all the rest how exactly? They have some magic plan to cut programs people want yet get them to still vote for them? We'll see.

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by whell

I love it. There were plenty of posts on this forum chiding the right for having expectations of Obama that were too high after he was in office for 2 years, while he had majorities in the house and the senate. The Republicans have had control of a single house for 5 weeks, and its time to pronounce failure?

I agree with you here. We won't be able to call them a failure for a bit yet. But I've yet to see the magic idea they've presented that will change the fundamental issue.

It seems the Teapublicans are falling into the age old trap. People voted for them for the same reason they voted for the Democrats last inning. They wanted to see progress. They wanted to parties to work together. No such luck. The Teapublicans know they can't get what they want, so rather than find a middle ground, they're rally cry is "March boldly backward! Return to the past!"

Super. Thanks. That'll work.

How 'bout you STFU about the Health Care bill you C A N N O T R E P E A L and try to move something forward?

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by whell

I love it. There were plenty of posts on this forum chiding the right for having expectations of Obama that were too high after he was in office for 2 years, while he had majorities in the house and the senate. The Republicans have had control of a single house for 5 weeks, and its time to pronounce failure?

Let's see. The new Repubs weren't even seated in the House yet, but they got the Prez to blink on extending the Bush era tax cuts, while also dopping SS taxes 2% for a year. They got the Prez to come off of the stupid idea that we could somehow repatriate the inmates at Gitmo so they could be processed through their home countries legal system, since their own governments either don't want them, or release them so they can return to the jihadist battlefield. The Dems were still clinging to the idiotic 1099 provisions in Health Care Reform, but by election time they were starting to change their tune on that because of pressure from the right. Finally the Prez reversed field on that issue in the State of the Union address because the Dems wanted to throw a bone to the Repubs to forestall Boehner and company from sending up bills that will attempt to dismantle Health Care Reform one brick at a time.

If that's "Zip Zero Nada", I'm wondering what your definition of progress is?

Regarding the budget, its funny that in prior sessions of Congress where the left's objective was to push back against budget reductions, if a government budget line item were slated to grow at 10%, and was then reduced to 5%, the Dems referred to this as a "budget cut". The article linked above suggests that budgeted dollars slated to be spent were left unfunded, and will remain so in the new Congress, but in this Congress, that's not a budget cut. Do the rules on the left change based on spin requirements?

We have a pretty strong recent history of pronouncing ideas and newly elected, heck, not yet elected leaders in this country as total failures, don't we?

And, one can only call these things that the right has "acheived" if one sees them as "progress". I would tend to think of them as "regress". A bold and intrepid march backwards.

Dave

[whell]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

We have a pretty strong recent history of pronouncing ideas and newly elected, heck, not yet elected leaders in this country as total failures, don't we?

And, one can only call these things that the right has "acheived" if one sees them as "progress". I would tend to think of them as "regress". A bold and intrepid march backwards.

Dave

Of, if its "regress" in your view, should I put assume that you're:

- in favor of the burdensome 1099 requirement, and would prefer that it be reinstated?
- in favor of closing Gitmo, assuming we can find someplace or someone to take ownership of these bastards, so that they can ultimately return to their merry ways of killing and destroying?
- rescind the 2% reduction for one year of employee FICA tax?
- roll back the Bush - era tax cuts so that you, me and everyone else faces a sharp tax increase while we're still in the midst of a recession?
- in favor of sparing no effort to maintain the size, scope and expense of the Federal government?

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by whell

Of, if its "regress" in your view, should I put assume that you're:

- in favor of the burdensome 1099 requirement, and would prefer that it be reinstated?
- in favor of closing Gitmo, assuming we can find someplace or someone to take ownership of these bastards, so that they can ultimately return to their merry ways of killing and destroying?
- rescind the 2% reduction for one year of employee FICA tax?
- roll back the Bush - era tax cuts so that you, me and everyone else faces a sharp tax increase while we're still in the midst of a recession?
- in favor of sparing no effort to maintain the size, scope and expense of the Federal government?

Not speaking for Dave here, but thought I'd chime in.

I don't know how "burdensome" 1099 would have been. I know Republicans are crowing about it. Since they can't actually repeal the law, they're making out like this is a big deal. I don't know. Obama mentioned it in the State of the Union, so I think the writing was on the wall that this was some token they could offer to give Republicans something to say to their base.

Whatever. If they are happy with that and want to call it a victory, fine.

But the tax cuts- I'll say it- I'm not in favor of ANY tax cuts for ANYONE until we start to pay our bills. We owe the money. We need to make some payments. Wanna cut spending? Knock yourself out. But until you actually cut something, we have bills piling up and it's time to pay them.

That last one you just made up, so I'm not going to address it. That's silly. That's like saying Republicans are willing to take any measure even if it means destroying the country to eliminate all taxes. Okay, that wasn't a good example because that *is* what Republicans want. But you see what I mean.

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

Ha, okay. We'll see. The Tea Party is different from all the rest how exactly? They have some magic plan to cut programs people want yet get them to still vote for them? We'll see.

Don't take us so lightly. The Republican party has pretty much been burned to the ground by us. We, like you Dems are not happy (putting it lightly) with the Bush era Republicans. See where I'm going...

[whell]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

That last one you just made up, so I'm not going to address it. That's silly. That's like saying Republicans are willing to take any measure even if it means destroying the country to eliminate all taxes. Okay, that wasn't a good example because that *is* what Republicans want. But you see what I mean.

No, not really. But that's why we keep talking.

[merrylander]

Boy, old Boner must be weeping his head off, they blew another vote yesterday. I guess Cantor needs some remedial math as he obviously can't count.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

Not speaking for Dave here, but thought I'd chime in.

I don't know how "burdensome" 1099 would have been. I know Republicans are crowing about it. Since they can't actually repeal the law, they're making out like this is a big deal. I don't know. Obama mentioned it in the State of the Union, so I think the writing was on the wall that this was some token they could offer to give Republicans something to say to their base.

Whatever. If they are happy with that and want to call it a victory, fine.

But the tax cuts- I'll say it- I'm not in favor of ANY tax cuts for ANYONE until we start to pay our bills. We owe the money. We need to make some payments. Wanna cut spending? Knock yourself out. But until you actually cut something, we have bills piling up and it's time to pay them.

That last one you just made up, so I'm not going to address it. That's silly. That's like saying Republicans are willing to take any measure even if it means destroying the country to eliminate all taxes. Okay, that wasn't a good example because that *is* what Republicans want. But you see what I mean.

Dittos, Eddie..................Did I really say that? "Dittos"?. Eek!

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

Don't take us so lightly. The Republican party has pretty much been burned to the ground by us. We, like you Dems are not happy (putting it lightly) with the Bush era Republicans. See where I'm going...

No, I don't see where you're going, and I really don't think y'all do either.

I think the Republicans are frightened of you because they're a bunch of pussies and the TP is full of enraged lunatics. It would be interesting to see what an America run by TPers would look like. Something tells me Canada would end up full of refugees as America joins Germany, Japan and the Soviet Union on the worlds "Wall of Shame".

Dave