Political Forums  

Go Back   Political Forums > Economy
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 12-10-2010, 10:23 AM
merrylander's Avatar
merrylander merrylander is offline
Resident octogenarian
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 20,860
Think about it, if they had gotten the controllers from say China it would not have been possible to mount that cyber attack.

As for us getting on our high horse - pot, kettle, black.
__________________
Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people.
Eleanor Roosevelt
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-10-2010, 10:53 AM
finnbow's Avatar
finnbow finnbow is offline
Reformed Know-Nothing
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
Posts: 26,554
Quote:
Originally Posted by merrylander View Post
Think about it, if they had gotten the controllers from say China it would not have been possible to mount that cyber attack.

As for us getting on our high horse - pot, kettle, black.
True dat. Who is to say that Siemens didn't provide us or the Israeli's the code? They (we) got it somehow.

Bear with me while I descend a bit into cynicism:

What's wrong with taking millions from the Irans of the world (e.g., Saudi Arabia....) if we can subsequently render their toys useless at will if they misbehave? We have their money as well as control over the use of their toys. If China sold it, we'd have neither.
__________________
As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-10-2010, 11:56 AM
whell whell is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Metro Detroit
Posts: 13,135
Quote:
Originally Posted by merrylander View Post
Think about it, if they had gotten the controllers from say China it would not have been possible to mount that cyber attack.
This would have made things a bit easier. However, does the "real world" of espionage work this way? It would have placed someone at Siemens potentially "in the know".
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-10-2010, 12:29 PM
BlueStreak's Avatar
BlueStreak BlueStreak is offline
Area Man
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 27,451
What's interesting is that a country such as Iran is incapable of developing the technology on it's own. So, it must go to it's enemies for help.

I think the scenario we're developing is very possible, if not likely. That someone at Siemens sold them the stuff, then shared this information with the German government, who then passed it along so that a cyber attack could later be launched to disable it.

If this is the case, then----Who cares? So Seimens turned a buck selling these idiots something our side would fully know how to disable? I see no need to punish anyone for that. Now, if said individuals sold the stuff then kept it a secret? That would be entirely different, IMO.

Dave
__________________
"When the lie is so big and the fog so thick, the Republican trick can play out again....."-------Frank Zappa
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-10-2010, 12:57 PM
finnbow's Avatar
finnbow finnbow is offline
Reformed Know-Nothing
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
Posts: 26,554
Smoke this over for a minute:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_in...arms_exporters

It seems to me highly likely that we sell stuff to unsavory characters with whom our allies don't exactly have favorable relations.
__________________
As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:43 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.