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Old 07-26-2010, 05:00 PM
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Structure laws that compelled the ruling class to be more socially responsible maybe?
The trouble is that the ruling class make the laws. The think far more highly of themselves than we do of them.
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Old 07-26-2010, 05:02 PM
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The trouble is that the ruling class make the laws. The think far more highly of themselves than we do of them.
granted, but we can vote them out
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Old 07-26-2010, 05:48 PM
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granted, but we can vote them out
It doesn't help when they have control of the media too. NBC is owned by GE; ABC by a conglomerate; and I don't know about CBS. The anchors are making seven figure salaries. I don't that makes them identify very well with the 99.8% of the population making less than them. In addition to the corporate make up of the media, we have Fox running a high profile propaganda machine. It will be hard to convince a majority of the people that we are being screwed.

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Old 07-26-2010, 07:25 PM
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granted, but we can vote them out
And vote who in?

More of the same, I'm afraid.

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And vote who in?

More of the same, I'm afraid.

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Old 07-26-2010, 08:14 PM
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granted, but we can vote them out
I don't think that the real "ruling class" are subject to a vote.
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Old 07-26-2010, 08:55 PM
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I don't think that the real "ruling class" are subject to a vote.
Terrific insight. Sadly it is so so true. In the lyrics of Steve Earle "Everybody's equal as long as they can pay."

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Old 07-26-2010, 09:16 PM
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It doesn't help when they have control of the media too. NBC is owned by GE; ABC by a conglomerate; and I don't know about CBS. The anchors are making seven figure salaries. I don't that makes them identify very well with the 99.8% of the population making less than them. In addition to the corporate make up of the media, we have Fox running a high profile propaganda machine. It will be hard to convince a majority of the people that we are being screwed.

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They're all running a propaganda machine. The only reason they let Fox in (other than to give you lefties something to bitch about) is so the great unwashed think they can hear both sides of the story.

They all report the same stories, only spin them a little differently. It's all an illusion to make people think that they're informed, to keep them stirred up between themselves.

Playing both sides against the middle. And from what I can see, it's working.

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The only reason they let Fox in (other than to give you lefties something to bitch about) is so the great unwashed think they can hear both sides of the story.
You're kidding, right? "Let FOX in"? Do you realize how much of the worldwide media Murdoch owns, from Fox to the Wall Street Journal to the Times of London to DirecTV to BSkyB (British satellite monopoly) to Star TV (Chinese satellite company) to who knows what else! If anything, it's Murdoch who decides who gets in.

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Old 07-26-2010, 10:20 PM
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You're kidding, right? "Let FOX in"? Do you realize how much of the worldwide media Murdoch owns, from Fox to the Wall Street Journal to the Times of London to DirecTV to BSkyB (British satellite monopoly) to Star TV (Chinese satellite company) to who knows what else! If anything, it's Murdoch who decides who gets in.

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Well, you may have a point about Rupert running the show, he is a member of the CFR.

But a right wing crazy???

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/834

I stand by my previous statement, it's all a dog and pony show to keep us entertained, or at one another's throats.

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