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Old 12-19-2024, 06:13 AM
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I hope Liz and others on the Jan 6th committee are well protected from the Mango Mussolini.
They have done nothing wrong, unlike the Mango and MAGA.
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Old 12-19-2024, 02:39 PM
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I hope Liz and others on the Jan 6th committee are well protected from the Mango Mussolini.
They have done nothing wrong, unlike the Mango and MAGA.

The Speech and Debate clause of the Constitution protects them completely and totally. This is just more bloviating from Trump and his brownshirts.
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Old 12-19-2024, 03:08 PM
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See, now this is the kind of thinking that just makes matters worse. Listen , I get that Trump and his cronies and their supporters are annoying and dangerous, but what if, instead of trying to piss them off , we look for common ground and try to find something, anything we could work together on.
Maybe I could have said if Biden were to do something that pisses Maggers off I wouldn't care. The party leadership spends so much time riling up the party faithful it's a waste of time to respond to it. Common ground to the Maggers is agreeing that they are right and everyone else is wrong. Appeasement never works

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In normal times we did not have a president incite an insurrection.
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Old 12-19-2024, 03:13 PM
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The Jan 6 committee was doing their job trying to hold Trump accountable for unethical behavior. Trump is now escalating things with his campaign promise of retribution.
Gotta' have a "Look over there" item to distract from not really accomplishing much of anything, again.
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Old 12-19-2024, 04:17 PM
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The Speech and Debate clause of the Constitution protects them completely and totally. This is just more bloviating from Trump and his brownshirts.
Right. When the Special FBI show up at midnight to drag you into a black van, the Speech and Debate Clause of the Constitution will completely beat them up and assure your escape?

Or when the show trial is on, and the judge, completely ignoring the Constitution, says 'Motion denied! Now sit down or I will find you in contempt!,' will the Speech and Debate Clause show up, brilliantly tell off the Judge and the Prosecutor, then wreck the room, defeat dozens of uniformed minions, and lead you to freedom?
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Old 12-19-2024, 07:28 PM
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Right. When the Special FBI show up at midnight to drag you into a black van, the Speech and Debate Clause of the Constitution will completely beat them up and assure your escape?

Or when the show trial is on, and the judge, completely ignoring the Constitution, says 'Motion denied! Now sit down or I will find you in contempt!,' will the Speech and Debate Clause show up, brilliantly tell off the Judge and the Prosecutor, then wreck the room, defeat dozens of uniformed minions, and lead you to freedom?
I hear ya, but I just don't see it. Trump and his minions plumb new depths of incompetence every day. They'd fuck up a wet dream.
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Old 12-19-2024, 08:46 PM
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Enemies are frequently not the devilish geniuses our fears make them, nor are they the harmless fools our contempt makes them. All in all, they are pretty sure to come out average in performance for a collective endeavor. So what others have pulled off in the past, they will likely be able to pull off. We have examples of police states that have functioned in the past.
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Old 12-20-2024, 12:37 PM
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Enemies are frequently not the devilish geniuses our fears make them, nor are they the harmless fools our contempt makes them. All in all, they are pretty sure to come out average in performance for a collective endeavor. So what others have pulled off in the past, they will likely be able to pull off. We have examples of police states that have functioned in the past.
Good insight.
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