Trump Under Federal Indictment

[finnbow]

Trump was complaining in the meeting about Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley. The meeting occurred shortly after The New Yorker published a story by Susan Glasser detailing how, in the final days of Trump’s presidency, Milley instructed the Joint Chiefs to ensure Trump issued no illegal orders and that he be informed if there was any concern.

“Well, with Milley – uh, let me see that, I’ll show you an example. He said that I wanted to attack Iran. Isn’t that amazing? I have a big pile of papers, this thing just came up. Look. This was him,” Trump says, according to the transcript. “They presented me this – this is off the record, but – they presented me this. This was him. This was the Defense Department and him. We looked at some. This was him. This wasn’t done by me, this was him.”

Trump continues: “All sorts of stuff – pages long, look. Wait a minute, let’s see here. I just found, isn’t that amazing? This totally wins my case, you know. Except it is like, highly confidential. Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/09/polit...ion/index.html

Beyond blowing up Trump's excuse that he declassified everything in his head, this may lead to a superseding indictment for sharing national defense information.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Beyond blowing up Trump's excuse that he declassified everything in his head, this may lead to a superseding indictment for sharing national defense information.

Absolutely and...

Trump is facing a charge under the Espionage Act, his attorney Jim Trusty told CNN, as well as charges of obstruction of justice, destruction or falsification of records, conspiracy and false statements. - CNN 6/9/23

The Rosenbergs suffered death by electrocution for violating the Espionage Act. One thing we don't know yet is who was allowed access to the heavily classified documents that were laying around all over his Mar-A-Lago residence.

From Mary L. Trump...
I didn’t use the word “allegedly” before “stole” because we know he took the documents from the White House after he no longer had legitimate access to them; we know that he refused to return them even thought the National Archive asked him repeatedly and deferentially; we know that he lied about having returned everything; and we know that if anybody else in this country had done something similar—or even significantly less egregious—that person would have been arrested, handcuffed, and imprisoned a very long time ago. And that person would very likely be spending the rest of their life in prison. - 6/9/23

And yet, he can still get the Republican nomination, and be elected even if convicted and imprisoned...AND THAT IF NOMINATED, 46% OF ASSHOLE AMERICAN VOTERS WILL CAST THEIR BALLOT FOR HIM A THIRD TIME.

[RickeyM]

The GOP has so indoctrinated their voting base, so changed their beliefs, so demonized Democrats and the Democratic party that they cannot not support tRump. In the 2020 election millions of voters who didn't ordinarily participate came out to vote. A larger percentage of those voted Democrat for president. The threat of tRump occupying the oval office again hopefully will bring out even more to vote. Hopefully most of them won't cotton to a convicted felon becoming president.

[Oerets]

With the GOP's cult of zombies overlooking or plainly ignorant of how our justice system works. There are steps to bringing charges with judges lawyers grand juries.
Letting it slip is the cult on they way they would be running and investigation and prosecution. From on high with no filters to the steps taken, just do what the leaders desire. Retribution retaliation on political opponents.

Coming soon if they gain control again.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

The GOP has so indoctrinated their voting base, so changed their beliefs, so demonized Democrats and the Democratic party that they cannot not support tRump.

I really dont think that's all that much different from what the Democrats do. Trying to influence/indictrinate people to vote for them.

The behavior is the same, the difference is the content. GOP content is all shit...I hate what they want. Last time I che ked, I hate eveey bit of it.

Theyre all vote whores, its a parliament of whores as P.J. O'Rourke suggested many years ago.

[Ike Bana]

And...after having Trump take a number of giant shits on him, DeSantis is defending Trump on the indictment...vote whoring to ridiculous extremes.

“Why so zealous in pursuing Trump yet so passive about Hillary or Hunter?” he wrote, referencing Trump’s 2016 presidential opponent, Hillary Clinton, and President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden is also the subject of a federal criminal probe. - DeSantis 6/9/23

Why Ron? Because they have no case you stupid son of a bitch. If a federal prosecutor had a case they thought they could win, Hillary and Hunter would have been indicted a long time ago. If and when they do, there will be an indictment.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I really dont think that's all that much different from what the Democrats do. Trying to influence/indictrinate people to vote for them.

The behavior is the same, the difference is the content. GOP content is all shit...I hate what they want. Last time I che ked, I hate eveey bit of it.

Theyre all vote whores, its a parliament of whores as P.J. O'Rourke suggested many years ago.

Agreed, its ME first (to get reelected), party next (to help me get reelected) and country last (you have nothing to do with my reelection). As for the constituents, show me the money or get lost. End of the day, its not the candidate quality that matters, its the money they can raise. Herschel Walker is a recent example, one of the worst candidates money can by.

[Mark B]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I really dont think that's all that much different from what the Democrats do. Trying to influence/indictrinate people to vote for them.

The behavior is the same, the difference is the content. GOP content is all shit...I hate what they want. Last time I che ked, I hate eveey bit of it.

Theyre all vote whores, its a parliament of whores as P.J. O'Rourke suggested many years ago.

That may be true at the local level, and even for the US Congress but I don't believe Dems would support a Presidential candidate that does not respect the Constitution, democracy & the law.

[bobabode]

"WASHINGTON — Former President Trump was indicted on 37 charges, including 31 counts of violations of the Espionage Act, as part of special counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into the mishandling of classified documents from the Trump White House
The 49-page indictment, released Friday by the Department of Justice, details that Trump stored boxes containing classified documents in various Mar-a-Lago locations, including a ballroom, a bathroom and shower, his office, his bedroom and a storage room." LATimes

https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...uction-charges

Old 'Two Scoops' won't be getting any ice cream in the pokey.

[RickeyM]

The last governor of MD Larry Hogan is a Repub. No way he could have gotten elected without widespread Democrat support. However he came out against tRump's impeachment so I'd never vote for him again for any office.