Haven't we heard this before?

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

I was being sarcastic and to point out the absurdity of the need for an armed militia in 2018.

The National Guard being our nation's militia.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by nailer

The National Guard being our nation's militia.

Oops, should have known that.

On second thoughts need to look this up. Isn't National Guard part of the military or some such thing?

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by nailer

The National Guard being our nation's militia.

That may be arguable either way, re the 2nd. Regardless, they are issued and trained in the use of standardized arms. They don't grab grampy's flintlock musket off the wall on the way to muster.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Oops, should have known that.

The NG is often overlooked in these 2nd arguments as is the full intent of the 2nd's authors.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

That may be arguable either way, re the 2nd. Regardless, they are issued and trained in the use of standardized arms. They don't grab grampy's flintlock musket off the wall on the way to muster.

It's a fact Jack. The National Guard are federally funded state militias until federalized.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by nailer

It's a fact Jack. The National Guard are federally funded state militias until federalized.

By definition perhaps, but they don't muster with personal weaponry. Standardized weaponry is provided.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

By definition perhaps, but they don't muster with personal weaponry. Standardized weaponry is provided.

There's no perhaps about it and I'd appreciate it if you'd credit me with enough intelligence to know that members of the NG don't use their ancestors rusted out flintlocks.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by nailer

There's no perhaps about it and I'd appreciate it if you'd credit me with enough intelligence to know that members of the NG don't use their ancestors rusted out flintlocks.

The point is that possession of firearms and participation in the reserve/ NG isn't related to the 2nd by necessity or practice.

[nailer]

First, the Reserves are not state militia like the Guard. Second, you are correct that participation in the NG has nothing to do with the 2nd.

[Pio1980]

So, my point is that the 2nd is a relic of it's time, no longer applicable as intended. It's a right without a purpose that would better serve as a regulated privelege.