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Old 04-01-2010, 09:28 AM
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Okay, found this with a quick google search:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn.../?hpid=topnews

"Weeks later, Obama said he wanted a 'comprehensive energy policy' and 'if, in order to get that passed, we have to compromise in terms of a careful, well-thought-out drilling strategy that was carefully circumscribed to avoid significant environmental damage -- I don't want to be so rigid that we can't get something done.'"

Prety much what I thought. Not a 180 at all. In fact, exactly what he said he would do. Once again, making good on his campaign rhetoric.
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:30 AM
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I grok the critique, but this is leadership.

Campaigns are Vision.

The two, in the Real World, cannot always coincide.

I'm good with that.

Where you get in trouble is when you refuse to modify a Vision, even when reality says that it's dumb: like say, invading foreign countries that had nothing to do with 9/11...
It looks more like there's an election in six months than leadership.

At least to me.

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Old 04-01-2010, 09:34 AM
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It looks more like there's an election in six months than leadership.
It would be foolish not to be aware of the election and act accordingly. This has only been going on for a couple hundred years. Before that we didn't get to vote.
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:43 AM
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Anybody got comments on the locations he opened up for exploration?
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Might just be smart planning. Between Hugo down south and the Iranian situation in the middle east it might be good to have another domestic oil source at least in progress if the tap gets shut off.


Doen't in the least help with the fact that we really need an alternative energy source before oil dependency breaks this country completely.
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:54 AM
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Might just be smart planning. Between Hugo down south and the Iranian situation in the middle east it might be good to have another domestic oil source at least in progress if the tap gets shut off.


Doen't in the least help with the fact that we really need an alternative energy source before oil dependency breaks this country completely.
A ban of SUV's on public roads would help. If they pretend that they were built for off-road excitement, let 'em off road. Just don't let the soccer moms in their Lincoln Navigators guzzle more gas than we can afford.

No, I'm not really advocating that any vehicles be banned from the road. I do say tax the hell out of them (and provide a tax credit for those actually necessary for use in a productive way). I would venture a guess that "utility" has little to do with 90% of the SUVs on the road. I'm also a little suspicious of a 2 ton pickup that doesn't have a tool box on it. Too many of us burn much more fuel than we need. (Just like some of us consume many more calories than we need which has it's own environmental impact.)

I think Freud would have plenty to say about the US public's fascination with over-sized vehicles.

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Old 04-01-2010, 11:05 AM
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Anybody got comments on the locations he opened up for exploration?
I've read that they're not the most productive sites. Also, exploration is not drilling.

All in all, I tend to believe that this is nothing more than a crass political ploy by the Obama Administration in an attempt to appear to be moving to the center without doing so.

At times, I almost believe that the Obama Administration actually is attempting to bankrupt the nation. I do disagree with his policy concerning energy.

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Old 04-01-2010, 11:05 AM
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A ban of SUV's on public roads would help. If they pretend that they were built for off-road excitement, let 'em off road. Just don't let the soccer moms in their Lincoln Navigators guzzle more gas than we can afford.

No, I'm not really advocating that any vehicles be banned from the road. I do say tax the hell out of them (and provide a tax credit for those actually necessary for use in a productive way).
Yeah, I'm not in favor of banning anything. I wouldn't even tax the vehicles. This will never happen because it's political suicide, but the right answer is to tax the crap out of the fuel. I'd love to see $6.00 a gallon gas. That'd fix a lot. Use the money to pay for the war we're fighting to get the gas.

Before you dismiss it, think about it. Sure, people would get more fuel efficent cars. Demand for even better cars would motivate car makers to do a better job. But, that's just the beginning. People would start supporting public transit projects. Many would move from their McMansions back to the (gasp) city. Revitalize our city neighborhoods. That would help reduce the self imposed segregation.

Yup, a $3.00 a gallon gas tax pretty much fixes everything!
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:09 AM
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All in all, I tend to believe that this is nothing more than a crass political ploy by the Obama Administration in an attempt to appear to be moving to the center without doing so.
It is AMAZING, the gall. McCain's 'drill baby drill' wasn't mocked by the left during the campaign? Sheesh. He can do and say whatever he pleases and the left falls in line. 4 legs good, 2 legs better!

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It is AMAZING, the gall.
Really?

The educated, political, pragmatic gall?
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