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10-23-2016, 10:48 AM
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Penny wise, pound foolishness is a trait of people in authority incapable of managing large sums of money, like the top brass at the Pentagon.
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10-23-2016, 12:18 PM
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Discovered to be a true bait and switch?
Enlistees should keep the $$$.
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10-23-2016, 01:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rajoo
Penny wise, pound foolishness is a trait of people in authority incapable of managing large sums of money, like the top brass at the Pentagon.
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I dunno that they "manage" as much as just hand it over to crony contractors.
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10-23-2016, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sheltiedave
This is fraud, committed knowingly and with forethought, by the Guard recruiters.
As former military, I know the conditions these veterans served in, and the sacrifices they made because they honorably committed to a contract in order to gain a financial advantage at the beginning of their reenlistment period. They should be able to retain the paid bonuses.
Visiting financial ruin upon vets who honorably served is Kafkaesque, immoral, and an example of a military without a mind.
Oh, you served in Afghanistan and/or Iraq, and you survived? Congratulations, now return that bonus.
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The real irony is that like the Soviet "Afghantsi" they served for nothing.
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10-23-2016, 03:46 PM
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Government is quite good at this sort of thing. The verdict against us was remanded Sept 8- still waiting to see any check. Asshole went on vacation, maybe he will be back Monday
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10-25-2016, 03:54 PM
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More coming out about this. Seems a few at the top of the National Guard destroyed thousands of files in order to hinder prosecution. Let those who served keep the money, they fulfilled their part. They are not the ones who committed fraud, the ones in charge were. Make them pay it back!
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10-26-2016, 07:32 AM
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It is hitting the fan in Congress so maybe they will do summat to stop this nonsense.
This Sunday is the National Day of Remembrance for all the Cold War Patriots, those who gave their lives in the service of this country..
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10-27-2016, 09:03 PM
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Looks like it was too close to election time for the scumbags in Congress to obstruct and had to actually take action on something. Oh the humanity.Or is it Hannity, or maybe Manatee?
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10-27-2016, 09:26 PM
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Did Congress have anything to do with it? I understand the Army has halted collection action and will review everything next year. That's executive branch.
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10-27-2016, 09:32 PM
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Did Congress have anything to do with it? I understand the Army has halted collection action and will review everything next year. That's executive branch.
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The California National Guard offered bonuses of $15,000 or more for people who enlisted at the height of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Pentagon worked Wednesday to stave off a public relations nightmare, suspending efforts to force California National Guard troops who served in Iraq and Afghanistan to repay their enlistment bonuses that may have been improperly awarded.
Defense Secretary Ash Carter ordered the suspension in the wake of angry reaction from congressional Republicans and Democrats. They demanded he relieve the burden on Guard members following news reports that soldiers were asked to repay bonuses that in some cases totaled more than $25,000.
The announcement does not end the reimbursement process, but postpones collection efforts while the Pentagon and Congress look for a long-term solution.
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