charlotte NC police shooting video

[Pio1980]

Looking for pics, lots of winger racist sites are exploiting this.
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[Pio1980]

Sources obviously have agenda I do not share sorry bout that


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[Boreas]

Originally Posted by JCricket

Hey Folks,
Anyone else here try to watch the footage of the police video? I did several times. At just before 30 seconds, just as he was getting out of the car, I noticed a black device on the right ankle. It looks quite a bit like a gun holster to me. It is not clear, that is for sure.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/27/us...otte.html?_r=0

I'll stipulate that he had an ankle holster if you'll stipulate that he has nothing in his hands. You can see his left hand @10 sec. and his right @14 sec. Both are clearly empty.

North Carolina is an open carry state.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

I looked. I imagine you mean this frame from second 41 from the above source (my screen capture):


I see what you mean. Here's the foot blown-up some.

If the holster is empty, where's the gun? It wasn't in either hand when they shot him. And @42 sec. the cop in the red shirt reaches down in the direction of the holster. Why and what did he do?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/09...hooting-video/

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Better video here, except their player won't do full screen.

This photo of subjects alleged weapon looks like it is in a dangerous cocked with safety off condition, but you'll note there's no magazine in it. I'd assume action was worked by police to eject a round in chamber if there was one.

[Pio1980]

Ok, it's Fux, but it's here.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/27...t-records.html

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[JCricket]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Better video here, except their player won't do full screen.

This photo of subjects alleged weapon looks like it is in a dangerous cocked with safety off condition, but you'll note there's no magazine in it. I'd assume action was worked by police to eject a round in chamber if there was one.

normally an auto without a magazine and that has had the last round ejected causes the weapon to remain open. Not so in the picture. But that doesn't really mean anything, they could have closed it too.

[JCricket]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I'll stipulate that he had an ankle holster if you'll stipulate that he has nothing in his hands. You can see his left hand @10 sec. and his right @14 sec. Both are clearly empty.

North Carolina is an open carry state.

I can't stipulate to either, that it is a holster or that his hands are clear. I can't see clearly enough to make that assertion definitively for either point. I saw one frame that I thought "looked" to me like the silhouette of a hand griping a pistol, and the next fame was without a pistol. But I need to emphasize, I cannot clearly see anything in the video.

The black ankle thing is clear at the 33 second mark, just as he is getting out of the car.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by JCricket

I can't stipulate to either, that it is a holster or that his hands are clear. I can't see clearly enough to make that assertion definitively for either point. I saw one frame that I thought "looked" to me like the silhouette of a hand griping a pistol, and the next fame was without a pistol. But I need to emphasize, I cannot clearly see anything in the video.

The black ankle thing is clear at the 33 second mark, just as he is getting out of the car.

I saw the "ankle thing". Assuming it's an ankle holster (which I do), we have to assume two further things. Since the holster is on his right ankle, it would be appropriate to assume that, if he had the gun in his hand, it would be in his right hand. This is the hand which is in view for the longest time on the dashcam video. It is clearly empty.

So, here we have the two possible explanations for the whereabouts of the gun. One, it was still holstered and two, it was in the vehicle. This latter would explain the condition of the gun in the police still. Perhaps the delay in Scott exiting the vehicle can be explained as him making the weapon safe by removing the clip and then leaving it in the vehicle.

Either way, Scott represented no threat to the officers at all. Either he had a holstered weapon, to which he was legally entitled, or he left it in the vehicle.

[JCricket]

Logically this makes sense. However, there are many other possibilities too. Suicide by cop? Maybe he had the gun in his belt - which we could not see. I am certain there are many thing we do not know, and never will. I would ask the question, if the gun was still in the car, then why did the police tell him to drop it? I would find it difficult to believe that they conspired to kill him, knowing the gun was in the car.

Just thinking out loud here.