To the curb, woman!!

[Sandy G]

I don't think her son would be happy w/her making herself into some sort of latter-day mixed-up Don Quixote over him, though...Kinda dishonors his memory....And if a cop tells you NOT to do somethin', & you go ahead & do it, well, tough noogies. You were warned.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by rickr15

Oddly Cindy sticks up for him.


Bush arresting her would have made a martyr. Obama is not in the same situation and if she keeps pushing the powers that be I think she will find this out. As well as racking herself up a criminal record of course.

Isn't she the one who was arrested for wearing an anti-war t-shirt to a bush speech?

Regards,

D-Ray

[rickr15]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Isn't she the one who was arrested for wearing an anti-war t-shirt to a bush speech?

Regards,

D-Ray

"This never happened to me when Bush was president."

She's the one I quoted. Ask her.

[finnbow]

I have a hard time being critical of Cindy Sheehan, regardless of her faults/transgressions. Having your son killed in what you (and many others) believe to be a grand misadventure is likely more stressful than I'm able to comprehend. I hope she finds some inner peace sometime in the near future.

[d-ray657]

I agree with you about this Finn; the grief of losing a son under any circumstances is incomprehensible to me. Some people, however, become addicted to their sad circumstances and can't bear to move beyond them. Again, it's easier to judge than it would be to bear that loss. I would hope that she will find some closure and peace of mind. (Who knows, maybe the activism is what she needs to find closure. She can't find that peace until we do too)

Regards,

D-Ray

[Charles]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Who me? applying a double standard. Surely you jest.

No doubt I feel for her grief. I absolutely cannot imagine what it would be like to lose a child. I do think, however, that those who practice civil disobedience should be prepared to suffer the consequences. As Sandy pointed out, most cops have become smart enough nowadays to avoid making anyone into a martyr except as a last resort.

Regards,

D-Ray

Allow me to elaborate.

When she was demonstrating in front of the Boosch Ranch, with the media standing shoulder to shoulder, have she have been taken away in chains, it would have been on the 6:00 24/7.

Now, with Ears at the wheel, you have to go to a blog to hear about it.

I do feel sorry for her, as she apparently speaks from the heart. The poor woman has unfortunately evolved from a tool of the left to an embarrassment for the left.

That was my point.

Chas

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Having your son killed in what you (and many others) believe to be a grand misadventure is likely more stressful than I'm able to comprehend.

True. But -- perhaps -- she should place blame where it belongs?

I presume that her son volunteered, and reported when assigned, for said duty?

CHOICE!!

If you think it's a grand misadventure, as I do, you just don't go (or enlist). Potentially, is there a price to be paid?

SURE!!

Is it death?

As for questioning Obama's foreign policy? That's fair game, but it's somewhat difficult to blame someone for being messy when handed a steaming pile of dung.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Charles

Allow me to elaborate.

When she was demonstrating in front of the Boosch Ranch, with the media standing shoulder to shoulder, have she have been taken away in chains, it would have been on the 6:00 24/7.

Now, with Ears at the wheel, you have to go to a blog to hear about it.

I do feel sorry for her, as she apparently speaks from the heart. The poor woman has unfortunately evolved from a tool of the left to an embarrassment for the left.

That was my point.

Chas

You were saying you felt bad for her but she long ago needed to stop.

[merrylander]

I don't know if she is anyone's tool. My oldest brother died of cancer in his late fifties. I saw my mother bury her firstborn. Nuff said.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Zeke

True. But -- perhaps -- she should place blame where it belongs?

I presume that her son volunteered, and reported when assigned, for said duty?

CHOICE!!

If you think it's a grand misadventure, as I do, you just don't go (or enlist). Potentially, is there a price to be paid?

SURE!!

Is it death?

As for questioning Obama's foreign policy? That's fair game, but it's somewhat difficult to blame someone for being messy when handed a steaming pile of dung.

I don't know her or her son's economic circumstances. I do know that young people from low-income families are grossly over-represented in the military. It's served as an employer of last resort for an age group that suffers the highest unemployment rate. In essence it is an economic draft.

This is one area where my political principles and my fatherly instincts are in conflict. I think a draft is a more democratic way to meet the nation's military needs, but the last thing I would want to see is my sons involved in an unjust war - risking their lives for oil interests and Haliburton. I do think the view of war would be different if more people with economic means had their family members at risk of being put in harms way.

Regards,

D-Ray