Good news from the Ninth Circuit Regarding Concealed Carry in California

[nailer]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Yes, the 2nd Amendment is the militia act. Coupled with Article 1 Section 8, that limits army appropriations to two years duration, the Constitution was designed to insure the militias was superior in combination to the standing army.

It was assumed that with the House of Representatives being elected at two-year intervals, no majority that voted the ruinous cost of a large peacetime standing army would survive the next election. This scheme worked too, until after the Korean War.

It wasn't a militia act and your scheme failed in the War of 1812. The second amendment of our constitution remains in place and is still working as intended.

I like your picture. Just not it's frame.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by merrylander

The whole 2nd has been misinterpreted from day one.

I believe that the praise "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" means exactly what it says in plain language.

I think it's quite disingenuous of the gun control freaks to twist themselves inside out trying to interpret it as something else.

[nailer]

That's right, but the second is written in anything but plain language. I think the Framers wrote it as a poem that everyone knew the meaning of.

Is that a Washington quote?

The gun freaks thing is all about political power and selling consumer goods.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I believe that the praise "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" means exactly what it says in plain language.

I think it's quite disingenuous of the gun control freaks to twist themselves inside out trying to interpret it as something else.

Tom you omitted the first part that explains why the people need to bear arms. Others have said it was also so that the southern slave owners could arm themselves against a slave uprising as had already occurred on a slave ship.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by nailer

That's right, but the second is written in anything but plain language. I think the Framers wrote it as a poem that everyone knew the meaning of.

Is that a Washington quote?

The gun freaks thing is all about political power and selling consumer goods.

I realize that most Americans have trouble with the English language but it is hardlle that obtuse.

[nailer]

Tired old insult duly noted, old man.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Tom you omitted the first part that explains why the people need to bear arms. Others have said it was also so that the southern slave owners could arm themselves against a slave uprising as had already occurred on a slave ship.

Self defense is indeed the second bear arms right.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by nailer

Self defense is indeed the second bear arms right.

I see then the slaves were supposed to accept their servitude?

[nailer]

Slaves were property, not servants.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by nailer

Tired old insult duly noted, old man.

It was Winston Churchill that brought this to my attention.