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Old 04-19-2016, 10:38 AM
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If you get canned responses from your politicians when you want to have a voice..... Then you are doing it wrong.

You have to be ahead of the game and help craft the legislation.

Being a part of a bigger 'voice' helps.

You hear that Potter?

You're doing it wrong.

If you want to influence legislation you have to do it the right way.

By making a six or seven figure contribution to a Super Pac.
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:44 AM
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You hear that Potter?



You're doing it wrong.



If you want to influence legislation you have to do it the right way.



By making a six or seven figure contribution to a Super Pac.


What a putz you are.

I'll bet you have never been involved in the legislative process..... Yet, the first to complain.

I'll bet you don't even have a clue how to involve yourself in the legislative process.
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:51 AM
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If you get canned responses from your politicians when you want to have a voice..... Then you are doing it wrong.

You have to be ahead of the game and help craft the legislation.

Being a part of a bigger 'voice' helps.
Lobbyists do that and get paid handsomely doing it.
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I'll bet you have never been involved in the legislative process.....
Of course not.

I don't have enough money to buy into the game.
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:59 AM
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Of course not.



I don't have enough money to buy into the game.



Oh boo hoo.... A big strong man like yourself can't figure out how to influence legislation and this (gasp!) woman has been involved for years.

You are clueless.

I don't have a lot of money and I am involved in the legislative process on an ongoing basis with an advocacy group made up of others just like me who have no money.

Over the years we have had successes on the local and state, and occasionally federal level.

It's a whole lot better than sitting around complaining and acting like there is nothing you can do about it.
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:00 AM
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Lobbyists do that and get paid handsomely doing it.


Anybody can help craft legislation once they know how. Don't have to be a lobbyist.
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:05 AM
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Oh boo hoo.... A big strong man like yourself can't figure out how to influence legislation and this (gasp!) woman has been involved for years.

You are clueless.

I don't have a lot of money and I am involved in the legislative process on an ongoing basis with an advocacy group made up of others just like me who have no money.

Over the years we have had successes on the local and state, and occasionally federal level.

It's a whole lot better than sitting around complaining and acting like there is nothing you can do about it.
You're naive as Hell.

You have had absolutely no influence on any legislation that really matters.

All significant legislation is written by lobbyists.

What did they let you do?

Choose the design of the new Kiosk at your neighborhood park?

Pick what kind of wildflowers to plant on the right of way?

ROFL.
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:10 AM
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You're naive as Hell.

You have had absolutely no influence on any legislation that really matters.

All significant legislation is written by lobbyists.

What did they let you do?

Choose the design of the new Kiosk at your neighborhood park?

ROFL.


That is exactly the kind of response expected from one so clueless.
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:12 AM
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Anybody can help craft legislation once they know how. Don't have to be a lobbyist.
I worked for State Government for over 30 years.

I've seen what kind of "input" the General Public has.
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I worked for State Government for over 30 years.



I've seen what kind of "input" the General Public has.


Too bad you are so clueless or you might have seen more.

It's much harder to see how to be a part of the solution when you are busy complaining.

I've worked for gov for many years also. Interesting that I found a way to reach legislative goals and you couldn't.

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