Trumps is in!

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

The anti Clinton strain in Repug camp is extremely powerful: worst if a Supreme court spot is at stake. No one can poll accurately so far ahead.

I'll ask again. Where's your evidence?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

The bigger fear is that a lot of Bernie's supporters are not gong switch to Hillary; $40 Million+ raised in February when it's beginning to look like a lost cause.

If the Bernie-ites don't support the party candidate, they are potentially doing more to hurt this country than any teabaggers or sovereign citizens.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Well...then we have 8 years of Obama having been selected through the same rigged primary system. Because there was the same size batch of superdelegates in 2008 as there are this year. Apparently in 2008 Hillary lost the nomination through The same rigged primary system. The Bernie-ites have a convenient memory lapse.

In both 2008 all the Democratic Super-Delegates were faithful to the expressed will of their state's voters.

Does this have to happen? Of course not but Super-Delegates didn't determine the nominee for Obama's 2008 campaign.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Well...then we have 8 years of Obama having been selected through the same rigged primary system. Because there was the same size batch of superdelegates in 2008 as there are this year. The Bernie-ites have a convenient memory lapse.

Let me turn the question around, why didn't Hillary win the nomination in 2008? My answer: She was a bad candidate then and worse now. And the system was not rigged yet to the extent since DWS became chair in 2011.

Will Clinton end up debating in non-sanctioned debates? That’s what usually happens, but it looks less likely this time for two reasons. In previous years, there wasn’t a penalty for showing up in non-sanctioned debates. This year, the DNC is threatening to bar candidates who participate in unsanctioned debates from the sanctioned ones. Also, Clinton is the strongest nonincumbent front-runner in the modern era. She has less incentive to put herself out there and make a potentially fatal mistake.

Yes the DNC backed off but not until Bernie's supporters exposed DWS as a fraud.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/i...bates-too-few/

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Shit! The Repubs have a more democratic system?

The systems are what they are and they have been for a long time. If one want's to go for the nomination in either system, you go and do it. If you don't like the system then forget it. But don't decide to run and then start whining about the system when it's not going so well.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Let me turn the question around, why didn't Hillary win the nomination in 2008? My answer: She was a bad candidate then and worse now. And the system was not rigged yet to the extent since DWS became chair in 2011.

Now there's a steaming load. Obama got his share of the superdelegates and Hillary got hers in 2008. I can give you the count of you want it...but the number of superdelegates that went for Obama in 2008 is almost identical to the number that is being reported to be behind Hillary. So the accusation of rigging is a load of crap. It's sour grapes from a bunch of bad losers suffering from terminal Bernie-itis. Maybe if Bernie had decided to actually be a Democrat and go through the process of winning Democratic primaries for his Senate seat he might find himself being in better standing with the DNC. But nope, not Bernie. Bernie's gonna do it Bernie's way. Quit whining and reap what you have sown Bernie. You're not a Democrat. You wanted it your way, now you got it.

Is Bernie narcissistic enough to fuck up the country and run as an independent in the general election because he can't have every fucking thing his way? I hope not...but it wouldn't surprise me one little bit.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

If the Bernie-ites don't support the party candidate, they are potentially doing more to hurt this country than any teabaggers or sovereign citizens.

Or I could hope that Hillary gets indicted soon, fades away and we are left with an untarnished candidate. Not a pretty prospect but just. We will never know how many candidates stayed out of the race due to the anointment of Hillary.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Or I could hope that Hillary gets indicted soon, fades away and we are left with an untarnished candidate. Not a pretty prospect but just. We will never know how many candidates stayed out of the race due to the anointment of Hillary.

You hope Hillary will be indicted soon? Thats nice. For what? The whole email issue was bullshit from the beginning. The guidelines were all over the place and laws to guide specific handling of certain types of emails weren't in place until after she left office. But you want her indicted? For what...so your narcissistic outsider who never had to operate within the party system, who never held a job in his life that paid enough money for him to support himself, can lose the fucking election and screw up our only chance to finally get a progressive SCOTUS ? You people are nuts.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by MrPots

The area here in eastern Tennessee is awash with blue Trump signs.

This is not a wealthy area.

I guess it hasn't occurred to these people that "Make America great again" means something entirely different to a billionaire than it would to working class folks.

Wonder what those folks will think when minimum wage laws are eliminated, worker safety rules are gutted, and employers can work folks 80 hours a week and not have to pay overtime.

I guarantee he'll have no opposition from the GOP.

That's the good old days to a billionaire industrialist.

While eastern Tennessee, especially the NE, was pro union, they did fight and die for the planters' cause. Probably voted for Dubya too. Why not Trump? I'm seeing him more as a Nero than an Adolf or Benito.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

You hope Hillary will be indicted soon? Thats nice. For what? The whole email issue was bullshit from the beginning. The guidelines were all over the place and laws to guide specific handling of certain types of emails weren't in place until after she left office. But you want her indicted? For what...so your narcissistic outsider who never had to operate within the party system, who never held a job in his life that paid enough money for him to support himself, can lose the fucking election and screw up our only chance to finally get a progressive SCOTUS ? You people are nuts.

This just in from reuters.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has taken the server and

U.S. Department of Justice attorneys are investigating whether

laws were broken through the unusual arrangement. The State

Department's inspector general and at least two Republican-led

congressional committees are doing similar inquiries.

The State Department itself is investigating how much of the

information in more than 1,800 emails now marked as classified

was classified at the time it was sent, in breach of government

rules.

How come this isn't going away. Takes this long to figure out if any laws were broken in about 1,800 emails.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-cl...ZSAPEC2TBS46GX