Liberals and Conservatives ?

[Oerets]

My first thoughts on the causes of the lack of community was of course TV and the programming. But then remember how parents are afraid to allow their kids to roam and play outside freely. Both parents working outside the home and the kids going to day care or home alone after school playing video games for hours. The reasons are many many today to choose from could go on and on.

Then I remember two events that united this nation and it's people if even for a brief few minutes. They were the assassination of JFK and 911. So I now believe it takes a common suffering or a threat of danger to bring a sense of community. Divisions and selflessness seems silly when the whole of society is effected. So as long as the masses are somewhat comfortable in their lives things will only get worse.




Barney

[piece-itpete]

My dad ssays SS was sold as a savings account.

I'm sure some here remember the drastic SS increase under Reagan, that was to save SS when the boomers retired (now). When Gore spoke of lockboxes I LOL'd. People say to trust government!

Originally Posted by noonereal

Theft really.

Originally Posted by noonereal

Good post, we all really grabed our ankles when we though we were pulling a lever. Now it's to late we are already violated.

Awesome.

Originally Posted by Charles

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Stupid Bastards...yew already have the records....if I had 10 mill in assets yew think I'd be fucking with this nickle ante construction business to start with...a Louisville Slugger and an Ak-47...go pound sand up yer ass with a mallet....etc, etc.

Hundred bucks well spent, IMHO,

Chas

LMAO!!

Originally Posted by bhunter

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The once relative closeness of community now found through compelled fealty to the state apparatus.

Beautiful. I'd add too, at least from a Christian perspective, that in the end times 'peoples love will grow cold.' When I look around and compare what is in history it certainly fits.

Money insulates too, dramatically. And now that you can talk to whomever you wish instantly all the time there is no absence to make the heart grow fonder.

Pete

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

My dad ssays SS was sold as a savings account.

I'm sure some here remember the drastic SS increase under Reagan, that was to save SS when the boomers retired (now). When Gore spoke of lockboxes I LOL'd. People say to trust government!





Awesome.



LMAO!!


Pete

Just pulled from wiki on SS,

"The first monthly payment was issued on January 31, 1940 to Ida May Fuller of Ludlow, Vermont. In 1937, 1938 and 1939 she paid a total of $24.75 into the Social Security System. Her first check was for $22.54. After her second check, Fuller already had received more than she contributed over the three-year period. She lived to be 100 and collected a total of $22,888.92."


Never was to be a savings account but as a social program for the care of it's citizens.

Barney

[piece-itpete]

Funny... I get a statement every year.

I would say of course the first people to get it didn't pay in much. Doesn't mean they didn't sell it that way.

After all, the whole country was just burned by the crash.

Pete

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Then I remember two events that united this nation and it's people if even for a brief few minutes. They were the assassination of JFK and 911. So I now believe it takes a common suffering or a threat of danger to bring a sense of community.



Barney

So the human condition has not changed, that was my point.

People have little use for each other unless their is something in it for them.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Funny... I get a statement every year.

I would say of course the first people to get it didn't pay in much. Doesn't mean they didn't sell it that way.

After all, the whole country was just burned by the crash.

Pete

The statement is what your benefits are calculated to be. So you can do some planning or forknowage so to get you bills in order.



Not being around then can not argue how it was sold other then from the reading of history and talking to the older folks I do know. They all have told me it was a social program to protect the citizens in their old age.



Barney

[merrylander]

Back on topic.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by noonereal

Effluence and the internet is responsible.

Fixed it for you, nooner

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Charles

Bourbon???

Got a jug of Woodford Reserve barely been tapped under the sink. A good place for it tonite.


For one thing, a reasoned letter with a CPA letterhead will be better than a letter from me, which would consist of....

Stupid Bastards...yew already have the records....if I had 10 mill in assets yew think I'd be fucking with this nickle ante construction business to start with...a Louisville Slugger and an Ak-47...go pound sand up yer ass with a mallet....etc, etc.

Hundred bucks well spent, IMHO,

Chas

I forgot that those pissant Tenneseeans couldn't make bourbon. Where's the corncobs? I've run out of TP. Those state revenewers in Missoura need a little sand pounded up there reserves, I've got a home made mallet weighs in at about 30 lbs of round billet steel on 2 1/2 feet of hickory. I call that hammer, the thunder maker, or just Grond. It's a sight to behold for any nail pounder!

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Fixed it for you, nooner

Thanks!