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Old 01-31-2015, 02:42 PM
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Ipso facto, the dead body, for the most casual of astute observers.

Before the incidents, a prior history of poor or criminal behaviour on the part of the officers.
None of which has any bearing on behavior under criminal induced duress: even if validated as accurate.

Sum? Not even close to relevant.

Whereas the deceased's illicit behaviors IN THE MOMENT?

Undeniable.
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Old 01-31-2015, 03:49 PM
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None of which has any bearing on behavior under criminal induced duress: even if validated as accurate.

Sum? Not even close to relevant.

Whereas the deceased's illicit behaviors IN THE MOMENT?

Undeniable.
You have the credibility of a cat turd, and the integrity of a cat turd gobbled down and puked up by the dog. Rob suggested that some police officers have a violent streak. You asked for any evidence of that. I provided evidence.

And this monumental bullshit is your answer. You're a waste of good air.
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Old 01-31-2015, 04:45 PM
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No Zeke, when you do a character analysis on whether to hire a person, you research whether they have ANY conduct unbecoming. Do they lie, do they cheat, do they steal, have they evidenced any behaviour that sends up a red flag?

If I were an HR director, I would not have hired any of them based on their previous background and behaviour pattern. Character deficiencies show up in the oddest and most unpredictable fashion, especially when under extreme duress and stress. The fact that these officers killed citizens that were unarmed, had little inclination to immediately visit violence on the officer, and also all where ignored on the ground when they needed first responder medical attention reveals where police trained has been short circuited.
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Old 01-31-2015, 07:35 PM
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Uh, they passed: end of story.

Well, beyond their appropriate response to criminal behavior.
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Old 02-01-2015, 07:32 AM
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Uh, they passed: end of story.

Well, beyond their appropriate response to criminal behavior.
So Anthony was responding to exactly what criminal behavior on the part of Kathryn, eh?

Here's two more names for you Zeke...
Reynaldo Guevera
Jon Burge

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Convictions were based almost entirely on the word of an informant who later signed an affidavit saying he testified falsely because of "threats, intimidation and physical abuse by Det. Reynaldo Guevara." The victim's widow has also said Guevara induced her to offer false testimony against the defendants. - Chicago Tribune 8/2/13
Case after case of jailhouse beatings by violent cops, coerced confessions, exonerations, and millions in legal awards paid out by the City of Chicago to the VICTIMS of violent, dirty cops.

Plenty more dirty, violent cop names where those came from. You want evidence, or not Zeke?

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Old 02-01-2015, 10:24 AM
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When you discover any worthy of picture painting, produce it.

I'll not bother retorting related to criminal behavior of the citizenry: it's too easy.
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Old 02-01-2015, 05:09 PM
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We make them do it, you know.

'I didn't want to beat a confession of out the civilian, but it was either that or let him go....'
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Old 02-02-2015, 07:32 AM
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The real problem is this US and THEM attitude, the LEOs need to remember that they are also citizens.
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:03 AM
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No. Officers are well aware of that.

It's the non law abiders and entitlement types who do not keep the covenant of citizenship that require adjustment.
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That is not quite the way the heads of some of their unions are coming across.
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