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04-08-2016, 11:15 PM
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That's a meaningless number in the national scale. The 2.5 million additional votes for Hillary come from states where a Democratic candidate has ZERO chance of winning that state. But if it does sounds good to you, keep on repeating. It's a hollow victory for a shallow person.
Let's look at the so called swing states and add up the vote totals and do a comparison, say by the end of the month and let's talk then.
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How about Florida, Ohio and Virginia for starters?
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04-07-2016, 06:41 PM
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And she has apologized for her vote.
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Well bless her little pea pickin heart!.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-24547256
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Iraq study estimates war-related deaths at 461,000
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04-07-2016, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by icenine
Believe it or not gentlemen Hillary is not the enemy.
Tearing her and by extension the Democratic Party down is just helping the real enemy.
Bernie is not helping her by by beating her over the head on the the superpac issue.
Obama used them because he felt he needed to because he had to match the opposition. Blaming Hillary for using them just because she is Hillary is a double standard. Don't give me the bullshit about they came from a bank...all superpacs are dark money, even the ones Obama used.
I wonder if he won the nomination Sanders would still not use superpacs if a strong opponent on the Republican side was using them. Only a fool would bring a knife to a machine gun fight. Remember in the general campaign the stakes are a million times higher.
I think Sanders is also saying Hillary is the moral equivalent of W on the Iraq War. That is bullshit too. And she has apologized for her vote, something the neocons have yet to do.
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You would know Robbin. You're the one who's always crawling inside Bernie's
head end telling us why he thinks this or will do that. Bernie would have major defections from his support base if he were to set up a super pac.
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04-07-2016, 07:04 PM
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You would know Robbin. You're the one who's always crawling inside Bernie's
head end telling us why he thinks this or will do that. Bernie would have major defections from his support base if he were to set up a super pac.
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I communicate regularly with Sanders with the help of my neighbor's St. Bernard...I kneel down by the fence and put my head really close to his and then make the connection.
St Bernard is wondering why it is ok for Obama to use superpacs but not Hillary.
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04-07-2016, 07:06 PM
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I communicate regularly with Sanders with the help of my neighbor's St. Bernard...I kneel down by the fence and put my head really close to his and then make the connection.
St Bernard is wondering why it is ok for Obama to use superpacs but not Hillary.
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Because St. Bernie said so.
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04-07-2016, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by icenine
I communicate regularly with Sanders with the help of my neighbor's St. Bernard...I kneel down by the fence and put my head really close to his and then make the connection.
St Bernard is wondering why it is ok for Obama to use superpacs but not Hillary.
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Civility begins at home Robbin.
Google this. It'd what happens when a cheap shot bakfires. #HILLARYSOQUALIFIED.
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04-07-2016, 08:36 PM
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Believe it or not gentlemen Hillary is not the enemy.
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I'm familiar with her and I don't believe it. Just because her Republican opponent is worse does not mean she's not part of the problem too.
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04-07-2016, 10:42 PM
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I'm familiar with her and I don't believe it. Just because her Republican opponent is worse does not mean she's not part of the problem too.
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You might as well join the Republicans and vote for Trump then.
Hillary is far from perfect. But she is the standard bearer of our Party that faces forces of xenophobia and just plain stupidity on economic issues from the other side.
In the military you see people saluting officers...they are not saluting the person but rather honoring the rank that person represents...the office in other words.
That is sort of the way I view Hillary. I trust her to keep Obama's trajectory going.
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04-08-2016, 09:37 PM
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I trust her to keep Obama's trajectory going.
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Yeah, that's gonna be great.
http://politicalchat.org/showpost.ph...91&postcount=1
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On nearly every level of government, Democrats have lost more seats under Mr. Obama than under any other two-term modern president dating back to Dwight Eisenhower. (This includes the dual presidencies of John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard Nixon/Gerald Ford.)
Under Mr. Obama, Democrats have lost 13 net Senate seats, 69 House seats, 11 governorships, a whopping 913 state legislature seats and 30 state legislature chambers, according to analysis from the Washington Post.
That makes Mr. Obama the overseer of the biggest loss in Senate seats, House seats and state legislature seats of any of the past seven two-term presidencies, the second biggest loser of state legislature chambers (Mr. Nixon/Mr. Ford lost 31 to Mr. Obama’s 30) and fourth biggest loser of governorships (tied with Bill Clinton).
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04-07-2016, 06:34 PM
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Well she is her own worst enemy. Most don't really trust her and only a few like her. Lack of credibility and charisma are her problems, not some of us non-supporters.
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Makes me wonder which politician anyone trusts... Or likes... Or has credibility....
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