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Old 06-03-2018, 06:51 PM
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^^ I read that article when it was first published and what a contrast; a con artist vs. a true patriot.
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Old 06-03-2018, 07:35 PM
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Any discussion of President Trump’s lawyers’ written claims and his current TV lawyer’s sweeping declarations must be premised on recognizing: 1. The lawyers change their minds; 2. The lawyers don’t necessarily speak for Trump; 3. The lawyers may not be lawyering at all, just putting out fodder for Trump’s base to keep spirits high and brains dulled.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...rian-delusion/
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Old 06-03-2018, 08:32 PM
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Trump is not going to speak with Mueller
Trump is not going to fire Mueller
Trump is not going to pardon himself to save himself from Mueller

Mueller is not falling for any of Trump's threats and Trump is not leaving himself very many options other than quit.
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Old 06-03-2018, 10:05 PM
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Trump is going to remain president, having the time of his life, until he is voted out of office by the voters or the Senate. For the Senate to get rid of him he has to first be impeach and with what's happened to date I don't see that happening.
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Old 06-03-2018, 10:21 PM
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Trumps is going to remain president, having the time of life, until he is voted out of office by the voters or the Senate. For the Senate to get rid of him he has to first be impeach and with what's happened to date I don't see that happening.
Neither do I, he's in until he decides otherwise, legalities notwithstanding.
Is there a failure of checks and balances balances vs the sitting Potus' lack of respect for the procedures and traditions of the Oval?
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Old 06-04-2018, 08:27 PM
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Manafort, witness tampering earns confinenent request.
Mueller accuses Manafort of witness tampering

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/04/polit...ing/index.html
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Lock him up!
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Old 06-04-2018, 09:15 PM
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You knew something was up when Trump started to claim that Manafort was a fringe player in his campaign.
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Lock him up!
Lock 'em all up, starting with Tangerine Twitler.
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Old 06-04-2018, 10:32 PM
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1J0330

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Only a tiny fraction of the documents seized from President Donald Trump’s longtime personal lawyer Michael Cohen and reviewed by a court-appointed official are protected by attorney-client privilege, according to a court filing on Monday.
Cohen and Manafort both going to do serious time.
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