"Here's How You Get Ebola"

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Hospitals are thick enough in this country that in most areas you could designate one to be the 'Ebola hospital,' and everybody else could go to others.

Not sure if I were on the board of directors of a hospital and responsible for fiscal condition of that hospital, that I would want my hospital to be designated the "Ebola Hospital."

[donquixote99]

Nurses are saying initial treatment of Duncan was lax, 'protocols' kept changing, situation was chaotic. CDC now has top experts on site, and vows to send similar teams anywhere else Ebola shows up. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/us...exas.html?_r=0

My guess is Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital will be bankrupted by this. And my guess is nurses willing to treat Ebola patients are about to get very scarce and expensive.

If many more hospitals get involved with this disease, Congress is likely going to have to vote them some money and liability relief.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Not sure if I were on the board of directors of a hospital and responsible for fiscal condition of that hospital, that I would want my hospital to be designated the "Ebola Hospital."

I wonder what powers the Public Health Service still has from the old days. They might be able to issue orders and make them stick.

Even a slightly sizable outbreak anywhere here could well lead to martial law in the affected area.

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Not sure if I were on the board of directors of a hospital and responsible for fiscal condition of that hospital, that I would want my hospital to be designated the "Ebola Hospital."

Why not Ike?
You got a handle on this. Just a few pages back and a few days ago, you were very sure that it was no big deal to control, as long as you keep your gloved finger out of your bunghole, right?

[JBS...]

"DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) – The CDC has announced that the second healthcare worker diagnosed with Ebola traveled by air Oct. 13, the day before she first reported symptoms."

I wonder if she was one of the ones being monitored...

The CDC response and handling this threat reminds me of the healthcare.gov roll-out, incompetence everywhere.


http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/15/e...ore-diagnosis/

[donquixote99]

The need outpaced the CDC response. The hospital was too much on their own to begin with. They were no where near ready.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Why not Ike?
You got a handle on this. Just a few pages back and a few days ago, you were very sure that it was no big deal to control, as long as you keep your gloved finger out of your bunghole, right?

Y'know Was...you may have the most entertaining posts on this forum. So often, when I read one I feel like I passed out and came to in the aphasic's home. And on the Wernike's ward where everybody is babbling away but none of the words coming out make any sense. It's fun to read your stuff...although probably not in any way intended by you.

Not clear on the concept of context at times though, eh Was? Just a few pages back and a few days ago I attempted to present the point that much of the information we're reading about the transmission of Ebola is incorrect and that dressing people up like they're leaving the lunar lander for a moon walk isn't necessary and may make it more dangerous in some cases. That has nothing to do with my post above.

My comment in this thread is about, and in the context of, the fiscal responsibility that members of hospital boards of directors have. You don't want your hospital to be an "Ebola only hospital" because of the scary contagion factor. The contagion factor is the contagion factor. An Ebola only hospital is no longer doing neurosurgery, cardio/vascular surgery, orthopedic surgery...or any of the other complicated and expensive procedures that earn the big money for any hospital. I don't want my hospital losing money. It has nothing to do with mistakes made that get health workers infected...it has to do with the bottom line. If that's not what one is thinking about as a member of a hospital board of directors, one doesn't belong on a hospital board of directors.

[MikeG22]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

The need outpaced the CDC response. The hospital was too much on their own to begin with. They were no where near ready.

CDC = healthcare FEMA

[JBS...]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

My comment in this thread is about, and in the context of, the fiscal responsibility that members of hospital boards of directors have. You don't want your hospital to be an "Ebola only hospital" because of the scary contagion factor. The contagion factor is the contagion factor. An Ebola only hospital is no longer doing neurosurgery, cardio/vascular surgery, orthopedic surgery...or any of the other complicated and expensive procedures that earn the big money for any hospital. I don't want my hospital losing money. It has nothing to do with mistakes made that get health workers infected...it has to do with the bottom line. If that's not what one is thinking about as a member of a hospital board of directors, one doesn't belong on a hospital board of directors.

But, But the CDC director Dr. Thomas "Big Gulp" Frieden says any hospital with an intensive care unit and isolation facilities could handle a patient with Ebola. More restrictive facilities are only needed for airborne pathogens...

And he vowed "We’re stopping it in its tracks" !!!

[nailer]

The CDC's behind the curve readiness/response would have occurred regardless of which party was in charge. This is the alarm going off. Let's hope we are learning the right lessons and are on the way to implementing an effective strategy.

Both cases are less than 2 miles from me and I saw the media circus on my way to lunch.