Supremes vote for religious bigotry

[whell]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

Dude, what's up with you? Democrat women are too damn ugly to need birth control.

Your statement, of course, is in jest an not universally true. Many liberal women just unfortunately spring ugly parents. Take Chelsea Clinton. Its not her fault that Howdy Doody was cosmetically challenged.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by whell

Do you understand the difference between a self insured plan like the one in place at Hobby Lobby, and a fully insured group or individual plan that you're describing. Your statement suggests that you don't, and the fact that Hobby Lobby has a self-insured plan was a key element in their lawsuit.

The point is...with all the pissing and moaning from the right about their "freedoms" what is happening is some billionaire 1%'er's delusional religious beliefs are being dumped on others.

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by whell

Your statement, of course, is in jest an not universally true. Many liberal women just unfortunately spring ugly parents. Take Chelsea Clinton. Its not her fault that Howdy Doody was cosmetically challenged.

Point taken.
Rosie is looking better though.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

The point is...with all the pissing and moaning from the right about their "freedoms" what is happening is some billionaire 1%'er's delusional religious beliefs are being dumped on others.

Crock alert. How is covering 16 out of the 20 HHS defined essential contraceptive treatments/devices "dumping their beliefs on others"? And by the way, it could also be said that the HHS regulation of requiring coverage for post-conception birth control was the government "dumping its beliefs" on Hobby Lobby's owners.

[merrylander]

It would be interesting if one of the religious zealots on the forum could point out to me the passage in the Bible where it states that IUDs or RU-486 are tantamount to abortion,

So absent such statements and given that the AMA does not classify these methods as abortion we are not dealing with Religious beliefs but simply with the Green's personal opinion.

Given the price of either methodology plus the cost of placement for the IUD it would appear that it is the Green's pocketbook beliefs we are dealing with and not a thing to do with religion, but you all knew that.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by bhunter

No I'm not. I think women are capable of making their own decisions and don't need the god-damn state telling them they're weak and need help. Speaking of which: Do you think democrats prefer single women households or married households given the demographics over the last, say, 50 years?

WTF? In what sense is the state 'telling women they are weak' here? Illogical meme trigger, seems to me....

And god-damn state? Such animosity! Such emotion!

[piece-itpete]

His opinion doesn't matter because he's a billionaire?

Freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press - it's all freedom period, all facets of the same jewel. A restriction on one is a restriction on all.

Pete

[whell]

Originally Posted by merrylander

It would be interesting if one of the religious zealots on the forum could point out to me the passage in the Bible where it states that IUDs or RU-486 are tantamount to abortion,

Are you really claiming that many Christian faiths don't share a belief that lift begins at conception?

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

Are you really claiming that many Christian faiths don't share a belief that lift begins at conception?

Usually, the lift occurs before conception.

Regards,

D-Ray

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bhunter

Do you really think that the number of women effected by the narrow decision is significant? IMHO most women are smart enough to understand the decision and skip the political meanderings by the democrat's to rev up their base.

I think that a lot of women will see GOP cheerleading/support of the Hobby Lobby decision as them again being willing accomplices in wealthy, influential men phucking with their rights.