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08-14-2017, 03:02 PM
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After his crocodile tears over the Charlottesville hate groups, Trump refused to answer reporters' questions, and called real journalist Jim Acosta "fake news". Still an asshole.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/tr...rticle/2631475
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08-14-2017, 04:07 PM
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I don't think that anarchists fit well into the left, although they are quite distinct from fascists . It is not, however, a huge step from libertarian thought to anarchy. Anarchy is certainly a far cry from the concept of the Social Contract.
Any well publicized demonstration will attract its fair share of opportunists. Certainly disruption is the name of the game for anarchists. Such disruption does not advance an equitable social order. Anarchists do not speak (or act) for the left.
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08-15-2017, 07:11 AM
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I don't think that anarchists fit well into the left, although they are quite distinct from fascists . It is not, however, a huge step from libertarian thought to anarchy. Anarchy is certainly a far cry from the concept of the Social Contract.
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Not everyone on the left shares your view of a "social contract".
Antifa, A Friend Of The Left?
The movement’s secrecy makes cataloging its activities difficult. However, since Trump was elected, Antifa has had explosive growth. According to NYC Antifa, the group’s Twitter following nearly quadrupled in the first three weeks of January alone, and by the summer, their following exceeded 15,000.
Antifa is heavily composed of anarchists who place little faith in the state. According to the Atlantic, they consider the state to be complicit in fascism and racism.
According to the Atlantic, if those who Antifa deems as racists and fascists manage to assemble, Antifa’s members try to break up their gatherings, including by force.
The movement prefers direct action, including placing pressure on venues to deny white supremacists a space to meet, in addition to pressuring employers to fire them and landlords to evict them.
Such tactics have elicited substantial support from many of those in the mainstream left. When the masked Antifa activist was filmed assaulting Spencer on Inauguration Day, an article published in The Nation described his punch as an act of “kinetic beauty.”
Also:
In its upcoming September issue, The Atlantic followed AntiFa protesters in Portland, Oregon rallying against fascism and Nazis. The article asks the reader: "If you believe the president of the United States is leading a racist, fascist movement that threatens the rights, if not the lives, of vulnerable minorities, how far are you willing to go to stop it?" It describes the AntiFa movement as violent.
"Since antifa is heavily composed of anarchists, its activists place little faith in the state, which they consider complicit in fascism and racism. They prefer direct action: They pressure venues to deny white supremacists space to meet. They pressure employers to fire them and landlords to evict them. And when people they deem racists and fascists manage to assemble, antifa’s partisans try to break up their gatherings, including by force," The Atlantic writes.
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08-15-2017, 07:40 AM
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Not everyone on the left shares your view of a "social contract"...
Antifa is heavily composed of anarchists who place little faith in the state. According to the Atlantic, they consider the state to be complicit in fascism and racism...
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With Trump as president, it's hard to argue against this POV. In fact, it would be damned difficult to argue against it.
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08-15-2017, 07:54 AM
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With Trump as president, it's hard to argue against this POV. In fact, it would be damned difficult to argue against it.
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Fascist DoJ wants Web host to turn over IP addresses of anyone who visited website.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40935770
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08-15-2017, 08:04 AM
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So this request from the DoJ makes them "fascist"? Were they also when they demanded that Apple provide the FBI with an iPhone crack?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.e54a09245885
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08-14-2017, 04:36 PM
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Listened to Mush Limbo this morning for laughs. He was, seriously, telling his idiot audience that the Nazis were not extreme right wing fascists, but were, in fact, left-wing radicals. Sure they were, Mush.
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08-14-2017, 05:10 PM
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Listened to Mush Limbo this morning for laughs. He was, seriously, telling his idiot audience that the Nazis were not extreme right wing fascists, but were, in fact, left-wing radicals. Sure they were, Mush.
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That's an item of faith among the Far Right. They use the argument that since Nazi is a shortened version of National Soci@lism, it is thereby soci@lism and accordingly a leftist ideology. Similarly, they claim that the current day Democratic Party is the party of racism because of the Democrat's former ideology before LBJ flipped the party and the GOP become the party of white grievance. Ahistorical revisionism is all they got.
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08-14-2017, 05:00 PM
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Illinois Senate approves resolution asking police to recognize neo-Nazi groups as terrorist organizations
It's a start. Should follow Germany, and just outlaw the fuckers entirely.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...ion-story.html
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Sadly, they also have millions of woefully misinformed listeners to Mush et al, who rabidly believe this shit.
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